ok...can someone please clear this up!!!Ive heard so many different things from here and dealer...I have a stock Rocker c and i want vance n hines big radius 2n2 pipes....do i have to do anything to the bike after i install..dealer says i need fuel management computer or somthing ? they also say i have to dino?? and retune bike...so many people say different things im lost....all i want to know is if i put them on and thats it will it tear up the bike? PLEASE somebody tell me........ i have the money for pipes and was gonna put them on myself but dont have the cash for computer/dino cause the dealer wants like a 1000 bucks for that...

 

If all you are doing is putting new pipes on you do not need a fuel management system yet, it does not need to be retuned or dino it unless you want to spend money. If you add a new air cleaner that would require a new fuel management system.

 

There is a reason people will say you can do one mod (pipes or air filter), but not both without a tuner. It is because the bikes computer can compensate for the increased volume of air from one mod but not both. In order to deal with additional breathing provided by doing both mods together, the fuel management system needs to be given new marching orders (a tuner). A stage one download will allow you to run both, but does not allow the flexibility to allow for future changes to increased fuel demands-- heads, cams, etc. It is also important to keep in mind a tuner can be tweaked to make the exact needs of YOUR motor.

 

Thanks guys for clearing that up for me..That means the pipes are coming

 

correct on the pipes,,,
As far as the A/c, let me add a little more, U can add a new K&N filter to Ur stock set up and still be ok.. only if U add a complete new a/c like the SE, or any other High performance set up that will allow more air in, then U'll need some kind of F/M..

 

I installed a RSD Tracker exhaust, Ness Big Sucker filter with a black flame air cleaner cover, and XiED 13.8:1 AFR O2 Sensor inline enrichment device on my Rocker two years ago. It runs great, no lean pops or surging. The plugs look great, and in general, I'm very satisfied with the mods. I guess if I wanted to be 100% sure that the A/F is dead on, I'd get it checked. But for now I find it too good to mess with. Just my .02 cents. Besides, I do all my own maintenance and avoid the dealer unless I have a warranty issue.

 

put em on and ride it. wont hurt a thing,sept maybe your ears ;-)

 

Yeah what he said, just think how good it will sound

 

Pipes only no need for a change. There is a way to reset the computer so that it will adapt for the new pipes, but I cannot remember how to do it right now. My opinion is that if you add a hi flow filter you need a tuner, regardless of if it is added to the stock setup or not, but that is just me. there are no wrong answers in this thread yet.

 

this is how you reset the ecm for new pipes:1 unplug o2 sensors,2 remove stock exhaust,3 use boxed end wrench to remove the 02 sensors from stock headers,4 use same boxed end wrench to install o2 sensors in the new pipes,5 install new pipes,6 plug in o2 sensors and wipe down pipes removing all finger prints,7 push the start button. in moments your ecm will set itself to the exact same 14.7 afr that you were running before you ever touched the pipes.