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Old Jan 14, 2011 | 08:58 AM
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Installed a backrest on my 09 night train using rigid mount sideplates. I'm learning to be more mechanical, so when the dealer wanted a couple hundred to do the job I thought I could twist in a few bolts and do the job myself. When I picked up the parts the guy at the parts counter asked me if I was putting on a permanent backrest and said I would need to put a few drops of loctite on each of the bolts and pointed out which one I should use. Having never used loctite I took what he recommended (Red loctite) and installed my backrest, which by the way, I think looks great.

Problem is that I learned about Red loctite after I installed the backrest and it sounds like this stuff is really permanent.

Does anyone know if I would ever need to remove the backrest sideplates for any maintenance? I like the look of a backrest and do not plan on taking it off, but if I would need to do so for any type of maintenance then I better start working on getting the bolts replaced.

Thanks for the help, Brad..
 
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Old Jan 14, 2011 | 09:36 AM
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I believe for standard maintenance you should be good. Only if they need to remove the rear fender will they have to break the loctite. When the time comes to get a new rear tire, they may want to remove your fender to get to the swing arm.

When I put my detachable sissy bar together I used the blue loctite and that **** is solid.

In the future, pretty much stick to the blue. Red should be used for serious **** like engine bolt mounts. Even handlebars would use the blue instead of the red (so the loctite can be broken and they can be adjusted) Use just enough to put a very fine coat on the threads.

If I am wrong feel free to contradict me.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2011 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Ockam
I believe for standard maintenance you should be good. Only if they need to remove the rear fender will they have to break the loctite. When the time comes to get a new rear tire, they may want to remove your fender to get to the swing arm.

When I put my detachable sissy bar together I used the blue loctite and that **** is solid.

In the future, pretty much stick to the blue. Red should be used for serious **** like engine bolt mounts. Even handlebars would use the blue instead of the red (so the loctite can be broken and they can be adjusted) Use just enough to put a very fine coat on the threads.

If I am wrong feel free to contradict me.
+1 Spot on bro. i Blue LT everything on my scooter.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2011 | 09:56 AM
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Why would you remove a fender to put a new tire on? You can always heat the bolts with a heat gun or hair dryer to break the red loose, but blue for anything that may ever need to come off is s much better idea.

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Old Jan 14, 2011 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Ockam
I believe for standard maintenance you should be good. Only if they need to remove the rear fender will they have to break the loctite. When the time comes to get a new rear tire, they may want to remove your fender to get to the swing arm.

When I put my detachable sissy bar together I used the blue loctite and that **** is solid.

In the future, pretty much stick to the blue. Red should be used for serious **** like engine bolt mounts. Even handlebars would use the blue instead of the red (so the loctite can be broken and they can be adjusted) Use just enough to put a very fine coat on the threads.

If I am wrong feel free to contradict me.
Agree on most points but I have yet to ever find a bolt I used RED on via car, bike, or truck I couldn't get off with a hand tool. I rarely use the blue stuff.

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We use these kits at my job here all the time. Everything you need for your bike/projects is in that kit!
 
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Old Jan 14, 2011 | 10:21 AM
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I installed the permanent mount backrest on my Night Train and the bolts came with blue loctite already on them.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2011 | 10:22 AM
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Thanks for all the information. First off, my tube of red loctite went in the garbage. I just called the Harley service department (after they discussed it for a while) they came to the conclusion that they would not need to remove the backrest bolts or fender for normal maintenance.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2011 | 10:32 AM
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I am a red guy as well, I have never not been able to remove a bolt or nut with hand tools. I have used a heat gun on some small allen bolts just to be on the safe side.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2011 | 10:36 AM
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It was a dummy move on my part. Bolts were already blue, but I put a dot of red on them anyway. That was before I realized there was a difference between the two.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2011 | 11:33 AM
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Dig the red out of the garbage, and save it for special needs! There are definitely times you will want to use red loctite over blue, but blue will definitely serve the purpose for most instances. In particular, if you are doing parts that are exposed to high heat, red is the best.

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