The 80 dollar gadget comes with a clear hose. Plus the puck replaces the filter so you have to add in the filter volume too.

 

Boy, from one extreme to another over this thing. When one goes in for dialysis for lets say a kidney that no longer functions properly as an example, they run the dialysis untill ALL of your blood has been filtered and cleaned. If you went in for dialysis once per week and they only cleaned 80% of your blood guess what? By week 4 you are probably close to death if in fact you have not already died. If I was the one needing the dialysis and I went in and if they did not complete the entire filtration of my blood I doubt seriously I would be satisfied with an 80% filtration as compared to the 100% of my blood. Why? Because I know that 80% is NO WHERE near as good or as effective as a 100% filtration of my blood. Now here comes the scavenger and we are talking oil changes. I want my bike to operate to the fullest potential of all I have put into it. I want the inside of my bike just as clean as the outside of my bike. I want my bike to operate as cleanly as I can possibly make it operate. I want my bike to operate at cooler tempratures as I can possibly make it operate. I also want my bike to operate as long as I can possibly get out of it too. No one can ever convince me that leaving 20% of my old oil in each and every oil change I do over the years is as good as a complete 100% clean oil change!! The key here to all of my statments are the words I use like, I, ME, MINE and so on. This is what I think, feel and believe to be true about my bike, my oil and my oil changes. What anyone else wants to believe or how they feel or what they think is fine by me too! If someone thinks that this is foolish and not needed, fine! I am OK with that! All I am saying is that I bought this oil scavenger so that I can get a complete, 100% clean oil change each and everytime I change the oil on my bike because I think thats whats best for it!! $80.00???, pennies compared to what I have invested in my bike. If anyone else wants to swing by, use it for free, knock yourself out! It's on me! If not, thats fine too! I am going to do a complete, 100% oil change from this point on. Why? Because thats what I think is best for my bike, period!!!

 

Im on my way over. see ya in about a week. LOL

 

Come on over Dude!!! It won't hurt it a bit, it's free and it's on me!! I even have a rather large stash of Amsoil and filters too, Chrome filters if thats ok!

 

Nice! keep me posted on that product boss. I think its gonna work out well for you. I may just get one too. I want to see exactly how much $hit oil it pumps out in realty.

 

I'm by no means an oil expert and I'm not damming the scavenger, but really, it's not that bad, our bikes have survived for nearly 110 years many of which have logged well over 100,000 miles with zero issues pertaining to oil.

Again, I'm not arguing against this thing, just want to put out there want I have learned so far...which I'll add doesn't even scratch the surface, but it makes sense. First, you warm the bike, this lifts a lot of crap in the sump and gets it flowing. Then when you begin to drain it, some of the potential sludge or contaminates flow out with the oil being drained. Then when you put on that new filter and fill her up with new oil, when you fire her up the new filter picks up a lot of the leftover potential contaminates. Is your oil going to get darker sooner, sure, it quickly mixes with the minimal remaining oil. Then we repeat this cycle every 3 to 5 thousand miles which extends the life of these great machines!

It's not all dome and gloom people, really, the sky isn't falling and with millions upon millions, if not trillions of miles having been logged on this vary system. We're not talking about a system as sensitive as your internals body plumbing, we're talking about heavy pieces of metal, with veins large enough to pass things on through to a oil filter (kidneys) to be pissed out every 3 to 5 thousands miles. Do some owners run into the occasional kidney stone? Sure, but do the math and figure the odds.

They haven't changed the oil system design for a reason - it works!

 

Like I said, I been riding for nearly 40 years, I ain't new to none of this! My bikes in the past did just fine! BUT, being the CLEAN FREAK that I am, if this was available all those years ago, I would have had one then too. Out with the bad, in with the good. NOW, I am out with 100% of the bad and in with the good! When I clean my scooter, I don't do the whole thing then leave my white wall's filthy and walk away from it, I clean 100% of my scooter, white walls and all!!!! NOW, when I change my oil, I change 100% of my oil, simple as that! I swear, I don't have a problem with anyone who chooses to change 80% of their oil, I really don't!! If a person is happy with that, I am happy for them too!!! Thats what freedom of choice is all about! Personally, the first time I hook up my oil scavenger and watch that baby pump filth out of it until I see that nice, fresh, clean virgin oil comming through I'm gonna pop a chubby and my scooter, my pride and joy is gonna in turn treat me like a and then I am gonna get right back on it and ride it until I drop just so I can get that oil dirty and then look forward to the next time I can change my oil again!!! And with that I am going to !!!!!

 

Ding ding ding,winner. A 2 dollar piece of clear tubing will accomplish the same thing.

 

Except that you're running the dirty oil through your new filter before it comes out. Not exactly the same thing.

Here's a test that everyone can do next time you change your oil. Keep a small sample of your clean oil in a clear container. After you change your oil and run the bike for a few minutes to allow all the oil to circulate, allow a small sample to run off of the dipstick into a clear container and look to see how much color difference there is between the samples. Sound reasonable?

 

Hmm. The kidney is a filter. The dialysis machine is a better filter than the broken kidney. So, you are saying it is ok to pump the old oil back into the system after properly filtering it? I would agree with that. A good synthetic is good for 10,000 miles and the Harley oil filter filters down to 5 microns.

I don't think this is the simile you are looking for.

Rather, you want a complete blood transfusion, replacing every little molecule, to ensure that only fresh new blood is flowing in the system.