Service manual is wrong?
Road Warrior
Joined: Nov 2011
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From: North Carolina
To the OP, my 06 manual states this caption with the picture and states they are 12 pt/10 mm etc and the pad pins 1/4". Guess the FB SM could be different.
1. Short mounting bolt (12 pt/10 mm)
2. Long mounting bolt (12 pt/10 mm)
3. Pad pins (12 pt/0.25 in)
Road Warrior
Joined: May 2009
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From: Belgium
Yup, you are right, they are Torx. Ran into this myself a couple months ago. They changed the hardware and it didn't make it in the service manual. There are a couple more things like that in the book.
I have added a pic of my 2009 caliper with the 2 T40 TORX as it seems there is a lot of confusion around ... To get the pad pin of I used a 1/4 inch 12point wrench.
I have added a pic of my 2009 caliper with the 2 T40 TORX as it seems there is a lot of confusion around ... To get the pad pin of I used a 1/4 inch 12point wrench.
Last edited by Rakthi; Apr 2, 2012 at 08:33 PM.
Stellar HDF Member
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From: Utah
Geeze... there are internal torx and external torx as others have said. On my '06 they were external. In the case of the pad retaining pins I pounded a 12 pt. 1/4" 1/4 drive socket on to them to get them off, and bought a set of chrome bolts that were hex head. I threw away the torx pins and torx head bolts. They are too subject to failure if your brakes get some age on them.
If you replace all of yours with a set from Gardner or Colony the ones that hold the two halves of the caliper together should be done one at a time.
C#
If you replace all of yours with a set from Gardner or Colony the ones that hold the two halves of the caliper together should be done one at a time.
C#
Last edited by cwsharp; Apr 3, 2012 at 06:49 AM.
Road Warrior
Joined: Mar 2009
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From: Vallejo, California
I wonder why HD insists in perpetuating the utilization of the freakin' pathetic Torx bolts in their designs.. try to remove the ones that attach the brake disk when they are rusted.. even worse.. the rear shocks on sporties are attached with big Torx Bolts.. you'll need a high precision robotic arm, titanium Torx sockets.. wait for the planets to align and then sacrifice a goat to the Un-Stripped Bolt God... even then at least one will strip..
12 point spline bolts is a genius design..
ohh... BTW.. I hate Torx bolts! :-)
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12 point spline bolts is a genius design..
ohh... BTW.. I hate Torx bolts! :-)
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Intermediate
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 33
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From: Chicago
I wonder why HD insists in perpetuating the utilization of the freakin' pathetic Torx bolts in their designs.. try to remove the ones that attach the brake disk when they are rusted.. even worse.. the rear shocks on sporties are attached with big Torx Bolts.. you'll need a high precision robotic arm, titanium Torx sockets.. wait for the planets to align and then sacrifice a goat to the Un-Stripped Bolt God... even then at least one will strip..
12 point spline bolts is a genius design..
ohh... BTW.. I hate Torx bolts! :-)
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12 point spline bolts is a genius design..
ohh... BTW.. I hate Torx bolts! :-)
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Road Warrior
Joined: Jun 2007
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From: Out of Commiefornia!
Since you all brought it up... WTF is with all the different fasteners?!? Torx, allens, hex sockets, 12pt sockets, phillips, standard, inverted, metric, SAE... SHEESH! Would sure be nice if they narrowed down the selection just a little!
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Roger
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Roger
Road Warrior
Joined: Jun 2010
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From: Sunny South Florida
Perhaps a trip could have been saved if you bought a GOOD Quality set the first time. I can't stand HF. Overly cheap crap for single use. I have better use for my money.
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What drives me nuts about it is the holes in torx heads aint near deep enuff. Feel like i need to insure my chrome plate every time I think about using the darn things. Also, the H-D engineers musta been in bed with Ford considering the mishmash of metric, SAE, and torx crap spread around the bike. Had my softail 1 1/2 yr now and I think Ive cleaned out the local Sears store. Don't know how Sears is goin broke with my support.
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Nothing wrong with HF for us shade trees.
I would love to have all MAC tools, but am not going to spend that kind of money for something I use 4 times a year.