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Old Jan 2, 2007 | 11:36 AM
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Some of you, are obviously not familar with, or unaware of what's already been done as far as the EPA regulations are concerned. I posted this as a response to another post, but thought it may deserve it's own thread.

I'm not sure where some ofyou guys have been the last couple of years, but the EPA regulations for motorcycles are pretty much setthrough 2010 The newregulations began to take effect the first of 2006. By 2010, all 50 states will be in compliance with California's emission standards. And for those of you not paying attention a few years ago, the governmentnot only saw fit tostick it to us, they decided the pain wasn't significant enough, and went ahead and broke it off. Here is a short synopsis of thebill. You can search and find the bill in it's entirety, but this is alayman's version. The section concerning custom bikes, will come as a real surprise to those of you not familar with the bill..

http://www.cmtabate.com/Legislative/EPA/EPA_for_the_layman.htm
 
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Old Jan 2, 2007 | 11:54 AM
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If you read that "LITERALLY" every aftermarket pipe, AC, and internal parts(cam's etc.) makers just got put out ofbusiness, We won't mention people like Harley (SERT), PowerCommander, Zippers, etc. who monkey around with, or outright replace the EFI systems.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2007 | 01:04 PM
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Read it any way you want to, "it is what it is". I'm not sure how it's going to be enforced, and I'm sure "ways" will be found around some of it, but Harley knew about this back when the bill was introduced. I've heard some people say, the reason for the water-cooled v-rod, was in anticipation of the new regulations. Me, I'm just a bumb-*** biker that feels screwed, like most of em' I know I'll tell you what I do know, back when the bill was first introduced, everyone I know was saying "no way, can't happen" to O2 sensors and caytalytic converters on bikes.Guess what ! ! !.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2007 | 01:34 PM
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BTW...I didn't post that information to **** anyone off, it was in response to the thread "Predictions for 08 Softails", and the people there, who are unaware of what's already been done by the EPA. As of now, there are 49 state bikes, and Californoa bikes. If I understand it correctly, in 2010 there will just be bikes. Since I don't live in California, I don't know how it works, but it's my understanding a 49 state bike can be legal in California after it has 7500 miles in it, and I have no idea what 7500 miles has to do with making it legal.

 
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Old Jan 2, 2007 | 01:50 PM
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There must be loopholes as HD is listing their AC and slip-ons as street legal. Not to mention big bore kits
 
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Old Jan 2, 2007 | 01:55 PM
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Well I'm glad I have a 2005....
 
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Old Jan 2, 2007 | 02:09 PM
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I just moved to CA from Washington state and the DMV tried to hassle me on my bike not being at 7500 miles yet, was short by a couple hundred miles. I don't have the approved for operation in CA sticker on my bike and they hassled me. I remembered though that if the bike is over one year old you're OK, since I had an early 2006 - bought it in August 2005 - I was OK to get my plates. But I don't understand what the 7500 mile rule has to do with it. Anyone know what that is about?
 
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Old Jan 2, 2007 | 02:45 PM
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I just moved to CA from Washington state and the DMV tried to hassle me on my bike not being at 7500 miles yet, was short by a couple hundred miles. I don't have the approved for operation in CA sticker on my bike and they hassled me. I remembered though that if the bike is over one year old you're OK, since I had an early 2006 - bought it in August 2005 - I was OK to get my plates. But I don't understand what the 7500 mile rule has to do with it. Anyone know what that is about?
Probably their way to prevent people from "importing" relativly new bikes from out of state. If its got over 7500 miles on it its used, not new no matter what year it was made.
 
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I have read a little on these new regs and from what I understand the EPA only updated the regs for MCs because they have not done it in 20 years. Ibelieve theseanti tampering regs will be loosley enforced in most statesas MC's only put out about 1% of the harmful emissions. Ilive in Indiana, there is no vehicle inspection program here. In fact it was dismantled about 20 years ago because of corruption in the system. There has been no talk of reinstating the inspection process. So, I really don't see how they will enforce it.
 
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