@Harley...Your Crap Makes No Sense!
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What I understood from the guy that painted my front fender is that the denim black looks like anything but until it is sprayed with a satin clear. He said that's why you can't rub the finish with anything because the true black will show through. Which is why I took the vivid black route.
So just one can won't do it.. gotta have the satin clear,, makes sense to me.Thinking the satin clear would dull/flat any paint..
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As for all the concerns over denim fading and what not; I really don't see how that is true of denim paint over high gloss paints. My tins looked show room fresh after 3 1/2 years and 28k miles before I replaced the fenders and repainted my tank to be solid black. In fact my denim holds up far better than any high gloss because it doesn't get those hairline scratches that gloss paint gets from simple polishing. I've seen some pretty crappy looking denim paint bikes but then there were all manner of signs of weathering such as rusted parts here and there and worn out vinyl/leather parts which leads me to believe that the scoots in general were not cared for. In my experience, Denim paint holds up far better and with far less maintenance and has the benefit of standing out in most crowds.
I love the look of shiny paint jobs but I don't miss the work of trying to keep em shiny!
If I can, I will dig up those part numbers. I know that when Harley or any painter paints a tin denim it is a base and a top coat. I know from when I got my new tins repainted. I also figured that had to be the case because I could tell that my stock tank lettering looked like a decal in the sun that was cleared over. When ordering paint by the quart to do a bike, Harley lists separate part numbers for the base and clear. But when it comes to their rattle cans, my guess is as good as anyone's!
I love the look of shiny paint jobs but I don't miss the work of trying to keep em shiny!
If I can, I will dig up those part numbers. I know that when Harley or any painter paints a tin denim it is a base and a top coat. I know from when I got my new tins repainted. I also figured that had to be the case because I could tell that my stock tank lettering looked like a decal in the sun that was cleared over. When ordering paint by the quart to do a bike, Harley lists separate part numbers for the base and clear. But when it comes to their rattle cans, my guess is as good as anyone's!
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Road Warrior
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So the shop guys said never buy from parts before talking to them first haha. Turns out they use dupli-color low gloss engine enamel to match denim black touch ups. So I went to the local Auto Value and picked up a can. Now will see if they are right.
Also concerning the denim black, they claim there isn't a clear coat needed and don't even trust HD paints :P. Good news, they are giving me my money back.
FYI it's a Chrysler match.
Also concerning the denim black, they claim there isn't a clear coat needed and don't even trust HD paints :P. Good news, they are giving me my money back.
FYI it's a Chrysler match.
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So the shop guys said never buy from parts before talking to them first haha. Turns out they use dupli-color low gloss engine enamel to match denim black touch ups. So I went to the local Auto Value and picked up a can. Now will see if they are right.
Also concerning the denim black, they claim there isn't a clear coat needed and don't even trust HD paints :P. Good news, they are giving me my money back.
FYI it's a Chrysler match.
Also concerning the denim black, they claim there isn't a clear coat needed and don't even trust HD paints :P. Good news, they are giving me my money back.
FYI it's a Chrysler match.
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Yes, cuz I can't see that matching up. I used the duplicolor on my center console and it def doesn't look denim.
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Road Warrior
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Sorry guys hopefully tonight if I get in early, I wll test it out. Going by the lid it seems to match...but lacks a little blue tone in the shine compared to fenders. Which if that is the case, I can live with it. Reason I wanted a can now us to light bomb my powder coats first. Mean time see if we have a winner if fenders ever need it.
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@Harley...Your Crap Makes No Sense!
Hope you guys don't mind me giving my 2cents on Duplicolor 1634. I have
used 1634 for probably tens years now painting several bikes. The bike in
the pic was completely painted with it. Until a couple of years ago it was
a great way to get a decent low gloss paint job. Like I said a couple of
years in the stores like Autozone and Pep Boys they removed all spray
paint from the shelves and replaced it with the same paint except a
chemical was removed from it and it has never been the same. It seems
like you have spray at a temp between 70 and 75 degrees to get a half
way decent paint job with an even coat. The bike in the pic was painted
with it.
A couple of months ago I added HD hard bags and when buying paint for
them I accidentally got a can of Duplicolor 1635 mixed in with the other
cans I bought. After I painted the bags I test sprayed an old fender with
the 1635. What a difference, the paint went on smoother and when dry
looked much much better. The next repaint on my bike will be done with
the Duplicolor 1635 Ford semi-gloss black. I don't know if the 1635 will
match your the HD Denim black so maybe one of you guys can try it and
find out.
used 1634 for probably tens years now painting several bikes. The bike in
the pic was completely painted with it. Until a couple of years ago it was
a great way to get a decent low gloss paint job. Like I said a couple of
years in the stores like Autozone and Pep Boys they removed all spray
paint from the shelves and replaced it with the same paint except a
chemical was removed from it and it has never been the same. It seems
like you have spray at a temp between 70 and 75 degrees to get a half
way decent paint job with an even coat. The bike in the pic was painted
with it.
A couple of months ago I added HD hard bags and when buying paint for
them I accidentally got a can of Duplicolor 1635 mixed in with the other
cans I bought. After I painted the bags I test sprayed an old fender with
the 1635. What a difference, the paint went on smoother and when dry
looked much much better. The next repaint on my bike will be done with
the Duplicolor 1635 Ford semi-gloss black. I don't know if the 1635 will
match your the HD Denim black so maybe one of you guys can try it and
find out.
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Road Warrior
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Well I feel stupid now. I got home last night and checked the HD can test piece....It looks like it might actually match. I guess it needs more than 4 hours to dry (and lose it's gloss) depending on the temp...ya it's rainy and cool these couple days.
So I quickly bombed the duplicolor on another piece last night and looks pretty damn close also this morning...you can tell the tone is slightly different than HD can as I guessed if you look very close.
$35 can vs a $8 can is worth the experiment.
Soon as I get a chance in the sun, will see if it actually matches or not....oh and pics also. Garage light doesnt help.
Btw Pops good to know....I am now curious on the Ford match also.
So I quickly bombed the duplicolor on another piece last night and looks pretty damn close also this morning...you can tell the tone is slightly different than HD can as I guessed if you look very close.
$35 can vs a $8 can is worth the experiment.
Soon as I get a chance in the sun, will see if it actually matches or not....oh and pics also. Garage light doesnt help.
Btw Pops good to know....I am now curious on the Ford match also.