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Old Jun 23, 2014 | 12:07 PM
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Why should I do a Stage One upgrade? Better power? Better mileage? Cooler running? Is it worth it or just because everyone else does it??
 
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Old Jun 23, 2014 | 12:43 PM
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Because it allow the engine to breath better, it seems to me to give a little more power using the old seat of the pants dyno.
 
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You will get a little more power.

The draw back is you will create more heat because the bike will be running even leaner than it is right now and develop more de-cell popping when down shifting or using the engine braking.

After the stage one upgrade you will need to do a remap of the fuel control system which will create more power lower the operating temperature, eliminate the de-cell popping, better mileage and better throttle response.

We did it on our '12 FLSTC and it does run better and cooler.
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Originally Posted by erbssr
Why should I do a Stage One upgrade? Better power? Better mileage? Cooler running? Is it worth it or just because everyone else does it??
In my opinion along with a fuel tuner:

Better power? Yes
Better mileage? Yes
Cooler running? Yes
 
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Old Jun 23, 2014 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Ramboamt
You will get a little more power.

The draw back is you will create more heat because the bike will be running even leaner than it is right now and develop more de-cell popping when down shifting or using the engine braking.

After the stage one upgrade you will need to do a remap of the fuel control system which will create more power lower the operating temperature, eliminate the de-cell popping, better mileage and better throttle response.

We did it on our '12 FLSTC and it does run better and cooler.
Hope this helps.
Yeah, I meant to include the fuel controller in that question. I was told to get a Dobeck TFI controller & an Alen Ness Big Sucker air cleaner. I already have Rush slip on's. Lots of decel popping.
 
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Aftermarket air cleaners look better than the stock one. Aftermarket pipes looks and sound better than the stock ones. IMO a stage 1 is almost purely for looks.
 
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Tuning or a fuel controller are optional with a Stage One. The factory ECM will auto-adjust pretty well to minor changes like that.
Hosing it with more fuel than the factory settings will allow will make it run cooler, but extra fuel isn't the greatest thing for keeping cylinder and ring wear to a minimum. Back in the days when cars had carburetors, and a car with a V-8 might get 12 miles per gallon, cylinder wear was pretty extreme compared to what it is today.
 

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Aftermarket air cleaners look better than the stock one. Aftermarket pipes looks and sound better than the stock ones. IMO a stage 1 is almost purely for looks.
You can still run the stock air cleaner cover with an Arlen Ness Big Sucker or a K&N filter. I want to put a round nostalgia cover with the bar & shield logo on it. I just love the classic look. That's why I own a Heritage
 
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You'll gain like 1-2hp which won't be noticeable but depending on if you get it remapped, it may smooth out your power curve too...that also depends on what you install. It's mainly for looks and sound.
 
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If the vehicle manufacturers didn't have to jump through emission and sound regulation hoops then they would probably leave the factory with a stage 1. A think 1-2 bhp is a bit low, I reckon you can easily release 4-5 bhp with a good filter, pipe and remap and the bonus is you get to hear the v-twin growl
 
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