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Old Apr 27, 2007 | 10:32 PM
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Found out tonight after deciding to buy some Vance & Hines pipes for my bike that since my '07 883R is EFI, I need a whole new computer...so yea 250 bucks for Straightshots and another 600 for the computer and then labor on top of that! Makes me a little sad but o'well money in the bank I suppose.
 
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Old Apr 27, 2007 | 10:43 PM
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Cant you just get a re-mapping program to plug into it.Never heard of having to buy the whole computer
 
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Old Apr 27, 2007 | 10:48 PM
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I thought that's all that had to be done, maybe the dealer is just trying to get me to buy ****, imagine that.
 
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Old Apr 27, 2007 | 10:55 PM
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Dude...I'd call Vance & Hines to confirm that if I were you. Never heard of needing a whole new computer just for slip-ons.
 
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Old Apr 27, 2007 | 11:03 PM
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Do it all yourself.

I got a set of Cycle Shack slipons and a DynoJet Power Commander for about $400 total. I put it all on in about an hour and downloaded a new map and everything is A-Ok....
 
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Old Apr 27, 2007 | 11:12 PM
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I put Rush slip-ons on and did nothing with my computer. Was told you don't have to re-map unless you start changing the air intake. Bike runs great.


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Old Apr 28, 2007 | 12:58 AM
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No need to do anything unless you do the a/c.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2007 | 02:38 AM
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Lot's of people buy new pipes without ever taking into consideration the balance changes to their bike that could come into effect.

Harley's are engineered balanced through things like pipes on one side, rotors and brakes on the other, etc.The weights of these items are also deliberate to try and insure balance between the sides. When people start changing pipes and so forth, very few people take into consideration the effect it can have on the balance of their bike.

Someone once told me that whenever you replace pipes, you should weigh the ones you're getting rid of and try to match the weight of the new ones and their hardware the best that you can with the old ones.

The same's with the brake components. Whenever you buy new rotors or other parts on the opposite side of the bike that aren't stock Harley replacement parts, you should weigh your old ones or find out their original weight and try to come close to that weight with the new parts.

Lot's of people start tearing things apart on their bikes and replacing things without giving much thought to the balance changes that might be occuring. These things aren't overlooked by those who know better, however, as it has the potential of causing handling problems down the road.
 
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You state someone once told me to weigh the pipes.I'm quoting you not my statement.May I tell you that you need not worry.If you change your pipes you will not die from the difference in weight if any.The handling will not change.I have done pipes on 3 Sportsters and never felt a difference in handling.I have also carried a 12 pack(with a full bag of ice)on one side and couldn't feel it.That is in a saddlebag bro.I guess if you know your bike you don't feel it.Your mind will make adjustments for you if you have the experience.Maybe you need to ride more.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2007 | 03:08 AM
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ORIGINAL: Zeb

Lot's of people buy new pipes without ever taking into consideration the balance changes to their bike that could come into effect.

Harley's are engineered balanced through things like pipes on one side, rotors and brakes on the other, etc.The weights of these items are also deliberate to try and insure balance between the sides. When people start changing pipes and so forth, very few people take into consideration the effect it can have on the balance of their bike.

Someone once told me that whenever you replace pipes, you should weigh the ones you're getting rid of and try to match the weight of the new ones and their hardware the best that you can with the old ones.

The same's with the brake components. Whenever you buy new rotors or other parts on the opposite side of the bike that aren't stock Harley replacement parts, you should weigh your old ones or find out their original weight and try to come close to that weight with the new parts.

Lot's of people start tearing things apart on their bikes and replacing things without giving much thought to the balance changes that might be occuring. These things aren't overlooked by those who know better, however, as it has the potential of causing handling problems down the road.
People who overthink things are funny. Based on the weight of the exhaust system causing "balance issues" you may not want to overlook other potential problems- maybe you should make sure the stuff in your saddle bags weighs the same on both sides. Or how far does it go? Should I carry two wallets when I ride so the balance remains the same? Sorry.. not poking fun at you... just the people who really take things too far with their thought process.
 
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