Sportster Models 883, 883 Custom, 1200 Custom, 883L, 1200L, 1200S, 1200 Roadster, XR1200, and the Nightster.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Pulley swap

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 3, 2019 | 02:30 PM
  #21  
TStephen's Avatar
TStephen
Road Warrior
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 1,713
Likes: 299
From: SC
Default

Originally Posted by apache snow
It may be for some but not for me. I did it the same time I changed out my clutch. I doesn't affect the speedometer either. I say what ever works best for you.

The OP wanted to know about dropping the RPMs at cruising speed. He now has all the options.
I stand corrected.
I started off thinking about drive belt pulleys and never considered swapping out the primary pulley, clutch shell, and a longer primary chain.
Thank you for the schooling.
Not something I would do, but if it lights your fuse, why not?
 
Reply
Old Apr 3, 2019 | 03:36 PM
  #22  
apache snow's Avatar
apache snow
Road Warrior
Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 1,609
Likes: 694
From: over the mountain
Default

That's the way a 1200 is geared. When I did my 1250 kit I wanted the same gearing as a 1200 would have. The 883 uses a 34 tooth primary sprocket and the 1200 uses a 38 tooth sprocket. It seemed to me the right way to do it even if its a little more work.. I was going to be in the primary housing any way putting in a Barnett clutch. I have all the tools needed to do the job. So it wasn't that big of a deal. The speedo gets its info from the transmission so what gets changed before the trans wont throw it out of calibration. If you change the final drive pullys it throws off the speedo calibration. . Still not a big deal I guess but that's just me. I just got back riding the bike. When it was an 883 it would be turning 4000 rpm at 70 mph. Now it turns 3400 rpm at 70. That is a good reduction and makes cruising easier to me.

Sorry for any misunderstanding.
 

Last edited by apache snow; Apr 3, 2019 at 03:38 PM.
Reply
Old Apr 3, 2019 | 03:45 PM
  #23  
Packgrog's Avatar
Packgrog
Road Captain
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Mar 2019
Posts: 595
Likes: 262
From: Philly area
Default

Originally Posted by apache snow
The speedo gets its info from the transmission so what gets changed before the trans wont throw it out of calibration. If you change the final drive pullys it throws off the speedo calibration.
That right there is a good example of one of the side benefits I was asking about. Good info there.
 
Reply
Old Apr 3, 2019 | 09:03 PM
  #24  
WKNDS's Avatar
WKNDS
Grand HDF Member
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 4,997
Likes: 2,083
From: Newport,TN area
Default

Originally Posted by apache snow
That's the way a 1200 is geared. When I did my 1250 kit I wanted the same gearing as a 1200 would have. The 883 uses a 34 tooth primary sprocket and the 1200 uses a 38 tooth sprocket. It seemed to me the right way to do it even if its a little more work.. I was going to be in the primary housing any way putting in a Barnett clutch. I have all the tools needed to do the job. So it wasn't that big of a deal. The speedo gets its info from the transmission so what gets changed before the trans wont throw it out of calibration. If you change the final drive pullys it throws off the speedo calibration. . Still not a big deal I guess but that's just me. I just got back riding the bike. When it was an 883 it would be turning 4000 rpm at 70 mph. Now it turns 3400 rpm at 70. That is a good reduction and makes cruising easier to me.

Sorry for any misunderstanding.
hexnut! I just now made the connection...

Sorry for going off-topic.

T.
 
Reply
Old Apr 4, 2019 | 06:50 AM
  #25  
grbrown's Avatar
grbrown
Club Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 45,429
Likes: 2,898
From: Bedford UK
Thumbs up

Originally Posted by screaminfast
I feel like changing the primary sprockets is so much more work than just changing the belt pulleys no?
That's quite true. Unfortunately both have limited options which restricts what we can do, unless we change to chain rear drive, for which there are more alternative sprockets, front and rear.
 
Reply
Old Apr 4, 2019 | 08:43 AM
  #26  
NPV288's Avatar
NPV288
Cruiser
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 164
Likes: 17
From: NY
Default

I have looked into this a lot and have found that changing the belt sprockets is the easiest solution. Either a chain conversion or buy the sprockets from 883Sportster.com

Messing with the primary is a whole nother gig, if you understand how it works then go for it! For the weekend handy man swapping the external sprockets is the best solution.
 

Last edited by NPV288; Apr 4, 2019 at 11:20 AM.
Reply
Old Apr 4, 2019 | 10:20 AM
  #27  
TStephen's Avatar
TStephen
Road Warrior
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 1,713
Likes: 299
From: SC
Default

Originally Posted by NPV288
I have looked into this a lot and have found that changing the belt sprockets is the easiest solution for me. Either to a chain conversion or from 883Sportster.com

Messing with the primary is a whole nother gig, if you understand how it works then go for it! But for the weekend handy man swapping the external sprockets is the best solution.
I agree, and if you are like me, you don't have to worry about the speedometer being off, because I don't have a speedo anyway.

*** I use Ulysse Speedometer Pro to track my MPH to avoid tickets, and it keeps track of my mileage while offering maps of my rides.
 
Reply
Old Apr 4, 2019 | 11:21 AM
  #28  
NPV288's Avatar
NPV288
Cruiser
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 164
Likes: 17
From: NY
Default

Originally Posted by TStephen
I agree, and if you are like me, you don't have to worry about the speedometer being off, because I don't have a speedo anyway.

*** I use Ulysse Speedometer Pro to track my MPH to avoid tickets, and it keeps track of my mileage while offering maps of my rides.
You can even get the speedo module to fix the speed or just do the math and know you are off by 5MPH at 60 or 7 MPH at 80.
 
Reply
HD Forum Stories

The Best of Harley-Davidson for Lifelong Riders

story-0

7 Times Harley-Davidson Chucked Tradition Out the Window

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-3

10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

10 Things Harley-Davidson Needs to Fix in 2026

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Apr 4, 2019 | 03:26 PM
  #29  
TStephen's Avatar
TStephen
Road Warrior
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 1,713
Likes: 299
From: SC
Default

Originally Posted by NPV288
You can even get the speedo module to fix the speed or just do the math and know you are off by 5MPH at 60 or 7 MPH at 80.
My bike seems to be missing that module.
 
Reply
Old Apr 5, 2019 | 09:36 AM
  #30  
Packgrog's Avatar
Packgrog
Road Captain
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Mar 2019
Posts: 595
Likes: 262
From: Philly area
Default

Originally Posted by TStephen
I agree, and if you are like me, you don't have to worry about the speedometer being off, because I don't have a speedo anyway.

*** I use Ulysse Speedometer Pro to track my MPH to avoid tickets, and it keeps track of my mileage while offering maps of my rides.
Hadn't known about apps like this. Pity the iOS speedo apps aren't as detailed as the one you shared. Also a pity that nobody has a split-screen app for GPS and speedometer. That would be very slick.

I still haven't seen anyone share any experience about what a lower mass final drive pulley might do for your, even keeping the size the same. I'm curious about the practical benefits of that. Better acceleration? Easier turning from the lower centrifugal force due to the lower mass? Or is the difference negligible apart from the drop in the bucket weight savings?
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:24 PM.

story-0
7 Times Harley-Davidson Chucked Tradition Out the Window

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson built its reputation on nostalgia, but every so often, the company took a hard left turn into the future.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-20 11:18:19


VIEW MORE
story-1
7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles

Slideshow: The bar-and-shield logo shows up on far more than motorcycles, some of the company's most unexpected products have nothing to do with riding.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 16:50:35


VIEW MORE
story-2
8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: Not every Harley gets it right, but these are the ones that genuinely earned their reputation.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-15 14:23:21


VIEW MORE
story-3
10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: From the troubled AMF years to modern misfires, these bikes earned reputations for reliability issues, questionable engineering, or disappointing performance.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-01 20:01:09


VIEW MORE
story-4
Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

Slideshow: Killer Custom's "Jail Breaker" build focuses more on stance and visual aggression than mechanical overhaul.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-18 19:20:32


VIEW MORE
story-5
Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

Slideshow: The Swiss custom shop has taken a Harley Softail and stretched it into something so long and low that it looks closer to a rolling sculpture than a conventional motorcycle.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-07 16:15:30


VIEW MORE
story-6
Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's new RMCR concept revives the café racer formula with modern hardware-and it may be exactly the reset the company needs.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-04 12:23:37


VIEW MORE
story-7
Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

Slideshow: A standard cruiser becomes an intricate metal canvas in the hands of a Swiss custom house known for pushing Harley-Davidson platforms far beyond their factory brief.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-02-24 18:19:44


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There is no shortage of great motorcycles to buy, but we would avoid these ten.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-02-19 14:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Things Harley-Davidson Needs to Fix in 2026

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's challenges aren't abstract; they show up in dropping shipments, shrinking dealer traffic, and strategic decisions that aren't yet translating into growth.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-13 18:33:17


VIEW MORE