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Old May 14, 2017 | 06:14 PM
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Ok. I get the idea of it, I haven't taken the cover off yet. If I hit the start button with the cover on but the cup removed, I should see something turning? Shoot, I hope it's nothing too bad
 
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The last time I rode it, everything seemed fine, the idiot that had it before me painted the engine black, so I removed the paint, then after I took it off, it wouldn't start
 
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Okay. So just to be clear, the trigger rotor cup is NOT spinning, or it IS?
You can remove the sensor and let it hang outside the engine to check while your turning the engine over with the starter. It should spin with the motor.
 
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Old May 14, 2017 | 08:56 PM
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By cover you mean the gear case cover, right?
 

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And what did you do to remove the paint?
Just curious.
 
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Old May 14, 2017 | 09:51 PM
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Ya the cam gear cover. I used that citri safe or whatever paint remover, a Dremel wire brush tool, air compressor and a wire brush.
 
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Originally Posted by jeffneuf17
Ya the cam gear cover. I used that citri safe or whatever paint remover, a Dremel wire brush tool, air compressor and a wire brush.
I can't see how that could have impacted the timing issue.

So you have confirmed/verified that the rotor trigger cup does NOT spin, correct?
 
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Old May 15, 2017 | 08:27 AM
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Okay, I was getting a little confused in my earlier posts.
The timing trigger rotor is driven from the rear intake cam. There is a notch in the end of the cam shaft which engages the timing trigger. So the odds of that shaft not turning are almost a gazillion to one.
IF the cup is not turning, it almost HAS to be because the cup itself is damaged.
The "key" I referred to in an earlier post has to do with alignment of the gear which drives the oil pump worm gear.
Just double check that the rotor trigger/cup is spinning and let's go from there.
 
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Ok, removed the cam cover, hit the start button for a second just to see, and the shaft is turning, so that's good. Also took a picture of the cams just too see if there is anything wrong you can see,
 
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Also pulled the bolt off the shaft, and once I did I saw that key that goes in the slot is broken, which makes sense cause when I hit the start, the shaft spins but not the cams.
 
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