Installed My Stage 1 Conversion Today
Since I am stopping after the Stage 1 conversion, this decision made the choice of components easier. I am using a Vance & Hines FP3, V&H Twin Slash 3+ slip-on mufflers, and the HD Stage 1 Kit High Flow air cleaner. I chose these components because they are easy to install and because H&V already has standard maps for them. The retail cost of these components is $885 plus sales tax. By shopping the components on line I as able to acquire the new V&H components for about $120 less than retail and didnt have to pay freight or sales tax. My local dealer sold me the HD air cleaner kit at a discount that covered the sales tax plus a few dollars. Over all, I saved about $125 on the components by shopping around.The dealer quoted me approximately $460 to install the components. I installed them myself. My total savings from careful shopping and self-installation was about $600. I am no master mechanicfar from it, but the skills required to perform the labor was very basica one beard. Because I own a Craftsman socket and other basic tools, the only tool I had to acquire was a torque wrench that I bought on Amazon for around $20. The entire installation took less than 4 hours. The mapping of the FP3 (the part I feared most) was a breeze and took less than 20 minutes. The hardest part of the job was the removal of the OEM slip-on mufflers.I am pleased with the outcome of the Stage 1 conversion. The sound is just right, and the look of the new components on the bike is great. Overall, the cost of the Stage 1 conversion was about $850. Plus, I really enjoyed working on my bike and know how to fix anything that goes wrong.Obviously, I will need to run the bike for a few weeks to see how effective the Stage 1 conversion is in improving the operation of the engine. But, my initial results are promising. I will post updates to let you know how my results progress.Bottom-line: A Stage 1 conversion is worth doing. The cost can be kept reasonable if you shop the parts and do the labor yourself. The required labor skills are very basic.
V&H Slip-ons complement the OEM look of the bike.
V&H FP3 is small and easily fits behind the left side cover.
John
BTW, unless you are running the Autotune feature there is no reason to leave the FP3 attached to the bike. IMO, that could be asking for trouble, if unknowingly some how the FP3 app got fired up on your phone no telling what that could do. Just me I guess...
I think most members in the Sporster forum have at least stage 1....unless you are in the classic section which is mostly original.
Quick questions for you guys with experience.
1. I have taken my bike for a couple of 15 to 20 miles runs. It seems to idle smoother, have better throttle response, and run smoother now that I have a few miles on it. Is this normal and how long will it take to stablize?
2. I get a single "pop" when I decelerate to engine brake. Is this normal?
Jim
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Quick questions for you guys with experience.
1. I have taken my bike for a couple of 15 to 20 miles runs. It seems to idle smoother, have better throttle response, and run smoother now that I have a few miles on it. Is this normal and how long will it take to stablize?
2. I get a single "pop" when I decelerate to engine brake. Is this normal?
Jim
I recently bought a 2013 Sportster 72 with 9k miles on it. Prior owner had installed a cone Stage One style air cleaner and a set of Vance & Hines staggered ShortShot mufflers. While I really liked the sound, the tune, as youd guess, was way off and poor running. Lots of heat, surging and decel pop. I bought the FP3 and had that cured in minutes. I bought a fresh, new, Harley branded Stage One air cleaner and bobber style dish chrome cover. Looks great and runs much better now.
To to answer your questions:
#1 The tune is set with the download and there shouldnt be much variance in how it runs. Itll just take some time for you to acclimate to how much better its running.
#2 Check that youre running the best octane fuel you can buy and put in a new spark plug that is gapped properly. If the decel pop doesnt clear up in a tank of fuel or two contact Vance and Hines. They are very helpful.
Hope me this helps and enjoy your ride.
FYI: I am very satisfied that my engine oil temperature is now running 25+ degrees cooler once the engine is warmed up. Is this normal?






