is an 883 enough?
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RE: is an 883 enough?
ORIGINAL: OldFenderGuy
What '1100 Big Twins of the 70's' are you talking about?
There were none that I can recall from that period.
Here is some information from the "History of HD", where they list all of their engines;
The Big V-Twins
[ul][*]Flathead, 1930-1948 (1,200 ccm) and 1935-41 (1,300 ccm).[*]Knucklehead, 1936-47 61 cubic inches (1,000 ccm), and 1941-47 74 cubic inches (1,200 ccm)[*]Panhead, 1948-52 61 cubic inches (1,000 ccm), and 1948-65, 74 cubic inches (1,200 ccm)[*]Shovelhead, 1966-85, 74 cubic inches (1,200 ccm) and 82 cubic inches (1,345 ccm) since late 1978[*]Evolution (aka "Evo" and "Blockhead"), 1984-99, 82 cubic inches (1,345 ccm)[*]Twin Cam 88 (aka "Fathead") 1999-2006, 88 cubic inches (1,443 ccm)[*]Twin Cam 88B (counter balanced version of the Twin Cam 88) 2000-2006, 88 cubic inches (1,443 ccm)[*]Twin Cam 96, 2006-present, 96 cubic inches (1,584 ccm) [/ul]
The Small V-Twins
[ul][*]D Model, 1929-31, 750 cc[*]R Model, 1932-36, 750 cc[*]W Model, 1937-52, 750 cc, solo (2 wheel) frame only)[*]G (Servi-Car) Model, 1932-73, 750 cc[*]K Model, 1952-53, 750 cc[*]KH Model, 1954-56, 900 cc[*]Ironhead, 1957-1970 (900 cc), 1971-85 (1000 cc)[*]Evolution, 1986-present, 883, 1,100 and 1,200 cc [/ul]
ORIGINAL: Zeb
The 1200's are bigger than the 1100's that came stock with some of the 'Big Twins' of the 70's, and they take away from the original concept that a Sportster was supposed to originally be, IMO.
The 1200's are bigger than the 1100's that came stock with some of the 'Big Twins' of the 70's, and they take away from the original concept that a Sportster was supposed to originally be, IMO.
There were none that I can recall from that period.
Here is some information from the "History of HD", where they list all of their engines;
The Big V-Twins
[ul][*]Flathead, 1930-1948 (1,200 ccm) and 1935-41 (1,300 ccm).[*]Knucklehead, 1936-47 61 cubic inches (1,000 ccm), and 1941-47 74 cubic inches (1,200 ccm)[*]Panhead, 1948-52 61 cubic inches (1,000 ccm), and 1948-65, 74 cubic inches (1,200 ccm)[*]Shovelhead, 1966-85, 74 cubic inches (1,200 ccm) and 82 cubic inches (1,345 ccm) since late 1978[*]Evolution (aka "Evo" and "Blockhead"), 1984-99, 82 cubic inches (1,345 ccm)[*]Twin Cam 88 (aka "Fathead") 1999-2006, 88 cubic inches (1,443 ccm)[*]Twin Cam 88B (counter balanced version of the Twin Cam 88) 2000-2006, 88 cubic inches (1,443 ccm)[*]Twin Cam 96, 2006-present, 96 cubic inches (1,584 ccm) [/ul]
The Small V-Twins
[ul][*]D Model, 1929-31, 750 cc[*]R Model, 1932-36, 750 cc[*]W Model, 1937-52, 750 cc, solo (2 wheel) frame only)[*]G (Servi-Car) Model, 1932-73, 750 cc[*]K Model, 1952-53, 750 cc[*]KH Model, 1954-56, 900 cc[*]Ironhead, 1957-1970 (900 cc), 1971-85 (1000 cc)[*]Evolution, 1986-present, 883, 1,100 and 1,200 cc [/ul]
[/align]You're right, I was thinking their 1200's were 1100's. I make that mistake regularly when I refer to the first year Lowriders as having 1100 engines too, rather than the 1200's. I've got the numbers too and I failed tocheck my workbefore I posted; sorry.[/align][/align][/align]Nevertheless the 1200's were the motors of many of the 'big twins' of the '70's, which makes the same point, that the 1200's in Sportsters today defeat the original intent of the design and purpose for the Sportster, to be a smaller, lighter, quicker and more nimble 'sporty' Harley Davidson, originally prototyped to be a cafe racer.[/align][/align]Like I said, if you're going to get a 1200, why not just go ahead and get a Super Glide, a bike that is barely larger than a Sportster and comes with the full-size big twin motor, if larger motors are your thing.[/align][/align]They ought to call the 1200 Sportster the 'Sportster XLE,' for 'extra large engine,' or something like that. Because they surely are not built in accordance to the original intent or tradition of the basicSportster, when they use that large of motor, IMO, and I don't think they should be calledjust aSportster because of that.[/align][/align]
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RE: is an 883 enough?
ORIGINAL: Dallastx
I hate to correct you JW, but the old 900's were actually 882cc's. According to the Harley achives.
I hate to correct you JW, but the old 900's were actually 882cc's. According to the Harley achives.
You are correct. Years ago,before Congress passed all the 'truth in advertising' laws and whatnot, manufacturerers used to be able to round bikes off to the larger size with no problem. Now, if I'm not mistaken, federal law doesn't allow them to call them anything larger than they actually are. I believe they can still round them off to a size if the engines are larger than the stated size, but not smaller.
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RE: is an 883 enough?
ORIGINAL: TNA_fan
Already in the works - actually read on one of the MSF course websites that 92% of all one-vehicle motorcycle accidents are self-trained riders within 6mos of starting to ride...
ORIGINAL: pjweber
Whatever you decide, sign up for a safety course, it will be the best money you ever spend.
Whatever you decide, sign up for a safety course, it will be the best money you ever spend.
Gee, did you ever think that thewebsites maysay this to try and get you to pay for their course?
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Well my 883 runs just fine with me(220lbs) and the lady (100lbs). Yes even up hills. I think some of you Harley riders secretly want a Hyabusa engine under ya.
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RE: is an 883 enough?
I might have to take you up on that offer WVHogRider. Sounds like you have a nice ride. The only eng mod I have done is a stage I kit and SE pipes. What kind of crotch rockets are you beating off the line? I have owned many in the past and have never had a HD come close to the speed of those things. In other posts 1200 owners have claimed to do 90 in third gear, so I don't think my 1200 would poop out at 115. Now I didn't buy it for that kind of riding so I will take their word for it.
