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Old Mar 7, 2020 | 07:34 PM
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Rebuilding carb, manifold seals, and putting a new AGM (dry) battery in a buddy's bike. Instructions are not clear about pre-charging battery after I add the electrolyte. I've gone from lead/acid direct to lithium myself, never activated/owned an AGM. I'm guessing a 2A charge for a couple hours or so? I can check with my multi-meter, I read 12.7V fully charged for AGM?

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I would treat it as a lead/acid battery and charge it overnight. 2a should not boil it.
 
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I had to do this a long time ago. The battery is dry charged and when the acid is added it takes the battery to nearly fully charged.

An initial charge is required before use. A tender charger overnight will do or a proper charger will obviously do it quicker.
 
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Having owned bikes for decades my advice based on long-standing experience with new batteries is to ignore any 'fully charged' stuff! Charge the battery overnight as suggested above first. If the engine gives any problems with starting it, after the work you have done, the battery is unlikely to have the reserves required to repeatedly attempt to start it. Having got it running, take it out for a decent ride for an hour or so - to reward you for your success and give the battery a decent recharge for its efforts!
 
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Thanks for the advice, everyone! Tested my old charger this morning, getting 0V from the 2A setting, so I guess I'm going to try a float charger/maintainer on it. I guess after almost 40 years, my old battery charger just gave up the ghost (probably loaned out one too many times!). I'm going to test the new battery voltage right after I activate it, just to see how close it is with just electrolyte, the put it on the charger until it reads "full." Carb and seals done, so just need to add some power to the electrics and should be good to go.

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I guess after almost 40 years, my old battery charger just gave up the ghost (probably loaned out one too many times!).
Obviously had it worked it would be fine but in this day and age with intelligent chargers I would consign that one to a museum. The new ones will stop when the battery is fully charged. The old one will keep going and boil the battery dry. With no way to top up the battery once you put the seal in that is clearly not in your best interest.
 
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Personally, I wouldn't use a 2 amp charger for any extended amount of time on a motorcycle battery, an hour or two tops. I ruined a new ATV battery leaving a 2 amp charger on it for 4 hours or so, boiled it dry. An almost $100 f**k up. IMO, lower amperage, longer amount of time. You do not want to generate heat.
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Personally, I wouldn't use a 2 amp charger for any extended amount of time on a motorcycle battery, an hour or two tops. I ruined a new ATV battery leaving a 2 amp charger on it for 4 hours or so, boiled it dry. An almost $100 f**k up. IMO, lower amperage, longer amount of time. You do not want to generate heat.
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I agree. Going to get a HF charger/maintainer, .75A charge rate. I just activated the battery and it reads 12.85V about 10 minutes later, without any charge added. I assume it won't take too long with a small charge to top it off. 12.85V seems pretty good so far.

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Originally Posted by Andy from Sandy
Obviously had it worked it would be fine but in this day and age with intelligent chargers I would consign that one to a museum. The new ones will stop when the battery is fully charged. The old one will keep going and boil the battery dry. With no way to top up the battery once you put the seal in that is clearly not in your best interest.
Yes, that old charger hadn't been used in years. With a lithium battery on the bike, I haven't even needed a maintainer. And, I carry a NOCO GB40 lithium starter/charger in my truck, so no need to worry when on the road. No worries about a dead battery or finding someone to provide a jump start.

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Just chiming in to confirm what everyone else says, seems like AGM batteries like lower charge rates than wet cell lead acid types. I have a Stanley battery charger (doesn't have an adjustable AMP setting) that is fully automatic, and it roasted a perfectly good AGM battery on my old motorcycle. Even though the charger's instructions said it was safe for AGM, I heard audible bubbling coming from the battery after 15 min of charging. Pulled the plug but it was already damaged.

Only using a battery tender from here on out to charge my battery.
 
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