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Old Apr 5, 2021 | 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by emingin
When I got my Sportster, I was surprised by how heavy it felt. It's not heavier, but it's top-heavy, which makes it feel heavy. See if you can take a short test ride and get a feel for if it will meet your needs. Good luck!
The top heavy feel is just from the narrow bars. Stock Sportster handlebars are stupid narrow - narrower than bicycle handlebars.
Put a set of normal width bars (32-34 inches) and the top heavy feel is completely gone.
 
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Old Apr 5, 2021 | 02:39 PM
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Superlows have 33 inch handlebar.
Iron 1200 (and 72 apparently) have 36 inch handlebar.
Iron 883 - 32 inch.
Aprilia Pegaso - 36 inches!
 
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Old Apr 6, 2021 | 03:38 AM
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I always wonder about "top heavy".

Is it top heavy at a particular speed? Do people expect the bike to basically stand up on its own? Where is the CoG, where is the weight in the bike?
 
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Old Apr 6, 2021 | 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Andy from Sandy
I always wonder about "top heavy".

Is it top heavy at a particular speed? Do people expect the bike to basically stand up on its own? Where is the CoG, where is the weight in the bike?
It looks like Traildale is right about handlebars. This "heavy" feeling may consist of weight itself, chassis proportions, handlebars, CoG, etc.

For example, my neighbour's CB400SF weighing 200 kg with low and narrow handlebar felt like solid piece of cast iron. And 270 kg XL1200T does not feel any more heavy than that!
Light (only 175-180 kg) but tall Pegaso felt light, regardless it has high CoG indeed.

I did not try to toss and lean new FatBob and Deluxe I took for test drive, but low-speed maneuvering were much easier than on Sportster. Long chassis gives great stability, while Sportster demands to yaw with handlebar, especially when stopping.
 
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Old Apr 6, 2021 | 08:39 AM
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I only ask as with no reference to other bikes I think the Sportster stands up pretty well. I can get my feet up as soon as the wheels start turning. I don't know what I should be feeling if it is top heavy.
 
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Old Apr 7, 2021 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy from Sandy
I only ask as with no reference to other bikes I think the Sportster stands up pretty well. I can get my feet up as soon as the wheels start turning. I don't know what I should be feeling if it is top heavy.
It's very good when taking off, but not so much when stopping. Same as on CB-125 and, apparently, on any bike with short base and sharp rake angle.
Despite Sportster is not so short, and rake is way not the sharpest, but is shows same effect.
 
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Old Apr 7, 2021 | 01:31 PM
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My SuperLow doesn't feel the least bit top heavy to me moving or stopped, but then NOTHING feels top heavy after owning a CBX with a full tank of gas...
 
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Old Apr 7, 2021 | 01:35 PM
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Must be just how I ride as when I stop and at that precise moment the wheels stop I put my feet or rather left foot down. The right foot is on the brake pedal. Again obviously if you are not balanced and with any bike it will just fall over if you do get the timing right.

If you put your feet down before stopping then they drag and if they stick bad things can happen.
 
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Originally Posted by Andy from Sandy
Must be just how I ride as when I stop and at that precise moment the wheels stop I put my feet or rather left foot down. The right foot is on the brake pedal. Again obviously if you are not balanced and with any bike it will just fall over if you do get the timing right.

If you put your feet down before stopping then they drag and if they stick bad things can happen.
Alone is fine. When riding 2-up with my wife then bike is yawing before stop, and I have to prepare for landing on both feet, because slightest movement of passenger or wind gust changes balance.
 
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Old Apr 8, 2021 | 02:37 AM
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So you joined the top heavy debate only to tell us eventually that it is your wife that is the problem!
 
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