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Old Jul 16, 2023 | 10:23 AM
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Angry deceptive advertising?

Harley always (almost always!) depicts this model with the swingarm parallel to the ground. We all know this isn't accurate so why do they do it?
Is is because marketing thinks it's ascetically more pleasing (I do!) or is deceptive advertising to hide the fact there's only 1.6" rear suspension travel?

 
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Where does the swing arm sit with only 1.6" of shock travel?
 
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In reality the swingarm points skyward from the pivot point with the bike sitting upright unladen!.. and the tire to fender fit appears much tighter as if the rear was lowered. Which it has!

Harley in their "suspension specs" lists the travel as 1.6". It also measures right around there.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2023 | 10:45 AM
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Need side by side pictures, por favor
 
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Harley sells these bikes on the showroom floor, not because of how they perform on a test ride. I would say they are marketed more to first time riders who need to flatfoot the floor in order to feel secure! Harley isn't stupid!
 
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Is it not possible to adjust the ride height with the shock to get the swing arm to sit level?
 
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Originally Posted by Andy from Sandy
Is it not possible to adjust the ride height with the shock to get the swing arm to sit level?
Shock is fully extended in the unladen state. And Harley doesn't know/care what "suspension sag" is!

If I purchase the Roadster 13.366" shocks and fit them with progressive springs of a similar rate I could dial in 1.2" of sag with me on the bike. The swingarm would be level to the ground with me aboard. I could not do this with the stock springs.

 
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They know the US market wants lowered bikes…at least the 48 and Iron models. They know many of these bikes get slammed/chopped even further and they know the demographics of the typical buyer. I guess I don’t see what point you are making. Everyone knows slammed bikes have limitations. Is their marketing deceptive? I don’t know but a lot of large companies are a little smoke and mirrors with marketing.
 
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I thought it was more important to have the frame rails parallel to the ground than the swingarm, as far as suspension geometry.
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