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Old Jun 2, 2024 | 04:32 PM
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I think you need to backup here. The problem was there as a stock bike. I think you need to fix it as a stock bike and not kludge it with modifying the map to hide the problem.

I would try HD plugs.

Make certain you don't have any leaks in the inlet or exhaust.
 

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Originally Posted by firehawk6
I will look into sending the MAP to V&H for them to make changes to. As far as the iridium plugs, I've ran them in the last 3 or 4 bikes I've owned and had zero problems with them. I've found that carbed bikes do warm up quicker on cold days with iridiums.

I don't believe there is any adjustment on throttle settings on my '17 Sportster. It has throttle cables, it is not 'fly by wire'.

Keep in mind the throttle issue was there when the bike was completely stock with factory HD plugs in it.

Are you sure the throttle cables are adjusted properly? You stated there aren't any throttle settings on your 17 Sportster but there are. The cables need to be adjusted correctly or you will have a choppy throttle response.
 
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Originally Posted by Andy from Sandy
I think you need to backup here. The problem was there as a stock bike. I think you need to fix it as a stock bike and not kludge it with modifying the map to hide the problem.

I would try HD plugs.

Make certain you don't have any leaks in the inlet or exhaust.
I have no intention of 'hiding the problem', it will be fixed right EVEN if it ends up having to take it to the dealer. There's a dealer south of Indianapolis, Manns Harley Davidson. They have a dyno.

The bike had HD plugs in it when I bought it back in December, the throttle issue was a problem then too, so it cannot be blamed on the iridium plugs. Besides, I've owned several bikes running the iridium plugs with ZERO problems.

I plan on testing for intake and exhaust leaks.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2024 | 04:46 PM
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Are you sure the throttle cables are adjusted properly? You stated there aren't any throttle settings on your 17 Sportster but there are. The cables need to be adjusted correctly or you will have a choppy throttle response.
That's one of the first things I checked and adjusted.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2024 | 04:48 PM
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What I meant was if you sent the map to V& H and told them it's running lean just off idle that would be at odds with other bikes where the map is good. If they tweak it, that might hide the actual problem.

 
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. Edited.
 

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Originally Posted by firehawk6
I just checked for any codes. I did find in the BCM a u0100 code was set. Says "lost communications with the ECM." That's the second time that has happened, seems both times were when I flashed the bike with the FP3. Seems strange I had no check engine light though.

Funny thing is, it never did that when I flashed the 883.

I also reflashed the bike with the tuner and the same MAP to see if something was going on with it the first time I downloaded it.

I checked the plug wires, both are are connected good at the coil and plugs.
That code being set is normal- its right in the troublecode section of the FP3 manual. I just read about it while doing reasearch on my 1275 conversion project.
 
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That code being set is normal- its right in the troublecode section of the FP3 manual. I just read about it while doing reasearch on my 1275 conversion project.
this is correct. When you flash it temporarily loses communication and then restores it
 
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Success...

I contacted V&H, and explained the issue I was having. All he needed was the last 6 digits of the VIN to look up what MAP I had flashed the bike with, then made some modifications to it.

What he did was just richen up the mixture at lower rpm/throttle settings, and some on the upper end because of the slight surge I could feel at times at Interstate speeds.

I basically called it, the bike was simply running WAY too lean. The bike runs fine now!
 
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Old Jun 4, 2024 | 04:09 PM
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With some effort comparing the various tables you will find the changes made. It might be an interesting exercise to learn more about how efi works.

I wonder if it's all done in the VE tables?
 
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