Slip ons or full exhaust
Just looking for some opinions. Stealer told me "why get a full exhaust when you already have some of the best header pipes for your bike?" Made sense to me. Now I'm really considering slip ons.
Man I wish the rain would stop... tropical storm Fay sucks ***.
Man I wish the rain would stop... tropical storm Fay sucks ***.
I went with a full exhaust, but I guess it comes down to what you like better and how much you want to spend. I agree that there is nothing wrong with the factory header pipes. Nothing wrong with the stock mufflers either, just a little quiet for me.
I just put on a set of Rinehart slip-ons and they look & sound awesome. I went with black and had the stock heat shields powdercoated to match (still not sure if that will hold). I definitley noticed a difference in the performance.
Either way you have to have the mapping done, so if money is an issue get the slip-ons so you have extra money to pay for the mapping.
Either way you have to have the mapping done, so if money is an issue get the slip-ons so you have extra money to pay for the mapping.
A good friend of mine is a Harley dealership mechanic, and in his job spends a lot of time dyno tuning bikes that have various exhaust/muffler configurations.
He told me (and I agree) that people spend far too much time worrying about what the "best exhaust" is, and how much additional power they have gotten from installing their exhaust of choice.
From true dyno readings (and not someones 'seat of the pants dyno), the difference in power between various systems is not that great, and what you get should be based on what looks and sounds best to you.
You can get a substantial increase in power if you go with a tuned full race exhaust system, but these only produce maximum horsepower figures in a very narrow RPM range, such as 6,000 to 7,000 RPM, etc... This won't do you a bit of good on a street bike which normally operates in the 1,500 to 5,500 RPM range.
For what it's worth, he told me that from dyno tuning many 1200 Sportsters (without cam and/or head modifications) the best overall performance increase throughout the normal operating range has come from the V&H ShortShots, with the old style 'off-road' Screamin' Eagle slipons not far behind.
But the difference between the various systems is only a couple horsepower at the most, so just get whatever you think sounds and looks good, and forget about these 'seat of the pants' evaluations that you frequently hear.
Just my opinion, but from what I've seen (and heard), sometimes the mind plays tricks and some people think that "louder means more power", no matter if we are talking about a bike, car, or truck. That isn't always the case.
He told me (and I agree) that people spend far too much time worrying about what the "best exhaust" is, and how much additional power they have gotten from installing their exhaust of choice.
From true dyno readings (and not someones 'seat of the pants dyno), the difference in power between various systems is not that great, and what you get should be based on what looks and sounds best to you.
You can get a substantial increase in power if you go with a tuned full race exhaust system, but these only produce maximum horsepower figures in a very narrow RPM range, such as 6,000 to 7,000 RPM, etc... This won't do you a bit of good on a street bike which normally operates in the 1,500 to 5,500 RPM range.
For what it's worth, he told me that from dyno tuning many 1200 Sportsters (without cam and/or head modifications) the best overall performance increase throughout the normal operating range has come from the V&H ShortShots, with the old style 'off-road' Screamin' Eagle slipons not far behind.
But the difference between the various systems is only a couple horsepower at the most, so just get whatever you think sounds and looks good, and forget about these 'seat of the pants' evaluations that you frequently hear.
Just my opinion, but from what I've seen (and heard), sometimes the mind plays tricks and some people think that "louder means more power", no matter if we are talking about a bike, car, or truck. That isn't always the case.

Last edited by OldFenderGuy; Aug 20, 2008 at 10:48 AM.
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