Fuel Programmer
Road Warrior
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,900
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TTS or SEPST are the two I would use now. Don't know about the Power Vision. There is a thread around here on the forum.
I use the Screamin' Eagle Super Tuner. Not the Orange one, but Black with a red button. It is an awesome device, and had servered me very well.
I use the Screamin' Eagle Super Tuner. Not the Orange one, but Black with a red button. It is an awesome device, and had servered me very well.
Account Deactivated
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,757
Likes: 8
From: Central Florida
Nightrider X14ieD,,,
My Untrained first Harley seat of the pants review ::::
I'm no expert, I just could NOT justify all that money for an ECM and dyno time.
$1,000 for a proper stage one just for a single digit Increase in HP and TQ.
what 6 or 7 at best..No Thanks,
The X14ieD's I Installed really feels good. the Bike Is smoother at all RPM's
My MPG did NOT drop probably because I'm using less throttle due to the
apparent extra power which Is really just smoother power delivery.
The Biggest change on my 08 EFI 1200R was cold start ups.
Before the X14ieD I'd start It,,
get 1400 rpms,,,then 15 to 20 seconds later a single Miss,,
It would almost Kill the engine,,followed buy 30 to 45 seconds of a unsteady Idle
ranging from 1000 to 1400 RPM's.
A steady 1,000 rpm idle would be reached at about 1.5 minutes or even 2 minutes.
After the X14ieD, Imediatly after,,,WOW
Hit the starter,,,rock stable Idle at 1400 rpm's then 20 to 30 seconds later
(45 seconds on chilly mornings) I'd have me a Tach parked on 1,000 RPM's
The needle looked welded to the Tach Face.
That one nasty Miss was all Gone!
I never noticed a "Learning curve",,there may have been one but I was so
overwhelmed by my new smooth power delivery I still say my ECM figgerd
It had died and gone to Harley heavan XD
http://www.nightrider.com/parts/
I'm no expert, I just could NOT justify all that money for an ECM and dyno time.
$1,000 for a proper stage one just for a single digit Increase in HP and TQ.
what 6 or 7 at best..No Thanks,
The X14ieD's I Installed really feels good. the Bike Is smoother at all RPM's
My MPG did NOT drop probably because I'm using less throttle due to the
apparent extra power which Is really just smoother power delivery.
The Biggest change on my 08 EFI 1200R was cold start ups.
Before the X14ieD I'd start It,,
get 1400 rpms,,,then 15 to 20 seconds later a single Miss,,
It would almost Kill the engine,,followed buy 30 to 45 seconds of a unsteady Idle
ranging from 1000 to 1400 RPM's.
A steady 1,000 rpm idle would be reached at about 1.5 minutes or even 2 minutes.
After the X14ieD, Imediatly after,,,WOW
Hit the starter,,,rock stable Idle at 1400 rpm's then 20 to 30 seconds later
(45 seconds on chilly mornings) I'd have me a Tach parked on 1,000 RPM's
The needle looked welded to the Tach Face.
That one nasty Miss was all Gone!
I never noticed a "Learning curve",,there may have been one but I was so
overwhelmed by my new smooth power delivery I still say my ECM figgerd
It had died and gone to Harley heavan XD
http://www.nightrider.com/parts/
Cruiser
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 116
Likes: 0
My dealer told me a FuelPak (all of them) are totally unnecessary on models with O2 sensors. In fact he won't install them, claims they are a total waste of money. Do your upgrades and see how your bike runs before dumping money into something you might not need.
Road Captain
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 588
Likes: 0
From: Somewhere
On my 48 before I put on the fuel pak I bought I kept getting a lot of popping on deceleration but afterwards I didn't really have that problem just very little. And while I liked the sound of that at first it kinda got annoying pretty quickly.
Road Warrior
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,900
Likes: 12
Your dealer might have been mislead of the scope that the 02 sensors can adjust for.
1mv is what the 02 sensor can adjust for.
Go outside of its ability to adjust 1mv +/-, and your SOL.
Also your VE tables are not written and saved. They may be adjusted, but are lost when you turn your bike off.
No, need to really go into the complete workings of what a tuner will do, does, or doesn't do. Your bike, your choice.
I can run my lawn mower on gas mixed with marine oil. Doesn't mean I should. I can run a go-cart on Coleman's lantern fluid. Doesn't mean I should.
Do your mods, but get the tailpipe sniffed with a wide band 02 sniffer, and see where you A/F mix is really running. You might want that tuner after all.
Road Master
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 799
Likes: 1
Ive added the 14XiED, Its benefits outweigh any drawbacks.
Yeah bunches of money, and a dyno may give you a precision tune. I aint racing (no more). Just going back and forth to work, and to get a bite every now and then.
Cruiser
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 116
Likes: 0
WoW, I lived long enough to hear someone has an honest stealer.
Ive added the 14XiED, Its benefits outweigh any drawbacks.
Yeah bunches of money, and a dyno may give you a precision tune. I aint racing (no more). Just going back and forth to work, and to get a bite every now and then.
Ive added the 14XiED, Its benefits outweigh any drawbacks.
Yeah bunches of money, and a dyno may give you a precision tune. I aint racing (no more). Just going back and forth to work, and to get a bite every now and then.
Cruiser
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 116
Likes: 0
Your dealer might have been mislead of the scope that the 02 sensors can adjust for.
1mv is what the 02 sensor can adjust for.
Go outside of its ability to adjust 1mv +/-, and your SOL.
Also your VE tables are not written and saved. They may be adjusted, but are lost when you turn your bike off.
No, need to really go into the complete workings of what a tuner will do, does, or doesn't do. Your bike, your choice.
I can run my lawn mower on gas mixed with marine oil. Doesn't mean I should. I can run a go-cart on Coleman's lantern fluid. Doesn't mean I should.
Do your mods, but get the tailpipe sniffed with a wide band 02 sniffer, and see where you A/F mix is really running. You might want that tuner after all.
1mv is what the 02 sensor can adjust for.
Go outside of its ability to adjust 1mv +/-, and your SOL.
Also your VE tables are not written and saved. They may be adjusted, but are lost when you turn your bike off.
No, need to really go into the complete workings of what a tuner will do, does, or doesn't do. Your bike, your choice.
I can run my lawn mower on gas mixed with marine oil. Doesn't mean I should. I can run a go-cart on Coleman's lantern fluid. Doesn't mean I should.
Do your mods, but get the tailpipe sniffed with a wide band 02 sniffer, and see where you A/F mix is really running. You might want that tuner after all.
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Your dealer might have been mislead of the scope that the 02 sensors can adjust for.
1mv is what the 02 sensor can adjust for.
Go outside of its ability to adjust 1mv +/-, and your SOL.
Also your VE tables are not written and saved. They may be adjusted, but are lost when you turn your bike off.
No, need to really go into the complete workings of what a tuner will do, does, or doesn't do. Your bike, your choice.
I can run my lawn mower on gas mixed with marine oil. Doesn't mean I should. I can run a go-cart on Coleman's lantern fluid. Doesn't mean I should.
Do your mods, but get the tailpipe sniffed with a wide band 02 sniffer, and see where you A/F mix is really running. You might want that tuner after all.
1mv is what the 02 sensor can adjust for.
Go outside of its ability to adjust 1mv +/-, and your SOL.
Also your VE tables are not written and saved. They may be adjusted, but are lost when you turn your bike off.
No, need to really go into the complete workings of what a tuner will do, does, or doesn't do. Your bike, your choice.
I can run my lawn mower on gas mixed with marine oil. Doesn't mean I should. I can run a go-cart on Coleman's lantern fluid. Doesn't mean I should.
Do your mods, but get the tailpipe sniffed with a wide band 02 sniffer, and see where you A/F mix is really running. You might want that tuner after all.