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Old Jun 27, 2012 | 09:58 PM
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I dont have a "derby" on mine .on yours all you will see is the clutch with the derby off.you have to pull the primary case off , then mount the shift lever .then , if you know what to look for , he is correct.go for it , it aint rocket science, just a push pawl shifter.
 
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Old Jun 28, 2012 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by heybaylor
the clutch has nothing to do with the shifting..

it should go into gear (jump/bang stall) without using the clutch..
the problem is in your shifter /shifter pawl/and or shift drum.

What he said - the problem is probably one of three things:

1) the shifter pawl detent spring fell off
2) The hit to the shifter bent something in the pawl assembly
3) The bolt that maintains the adjustment in the shifter pawl has loosened.

Pull the primary cover and have a look.
 
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Old Jun 28, 2012 | 09:53 AM
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Any special tools that someone could recommend I have before jumping into this? I hate realizing I need Tool X when I'm in there and finding that Tool X has to be ordered.
 
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Old Jun 28, 2012 | 10:10 AM
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Is this going to be #5 in the picture or that thing mounted to the shaft labeled #16?

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Old Jun 28, 2012 | 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by jp2code
Any special tools that someone could recommend I have before jumping into this? I hate realizing I need Tool X when I'm in there and finding that Tool X has to be ordered.
If the newer XLs still use those rasafrassin blasted TORX fasteners, just make sure you've got the proper size so ya don't round out the derby-cover bolts. Other than that - no special tools - allen sockets for the primary cover, open-end wrench to back off the primary chain and clutch cable adjusters, (primary chain locknut is 7/8", IIRC) and a new gasket to reassemble it all.

The BEST tool to have, though - is the Factory Service Manual - well worth the money in time/aggravation saved.
 
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Old Jun 28, 2012 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by 1984_FXRT
The BEST tool to have, though - is the Factory Service Manual - well worth the money in time/aggravation saved.
LOL - that's where those pictures came from. I've got both the real and the digital copy.
 
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Old Jun 28, 2012 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by jp2code
LOL - that's where those pictures came from. I've got both the real and the digital copy.
Sorry - the pics are blocked here, I think, as none of 'em displayed for me in the thread.
 
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Old Jun 28, 2012 | 12:54 PM
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Well, then you won't be able to see this linked image either.

The shifter shaft looks like it might be just a little bent, but I've never paid any attention to it before.

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Old Jun 28, 2012 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by jp2code
Well, then you won't be able to see this linked image either.

The shifter shaft looks like it might be just a little bent, but I've never paid any attention to it before.

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If the shifter shaft is bent (not the lever) - it's indeed possible that there's somethin' bent under the primary cover. Look at the pics, and you'll see how the shaft is welded, and how the pawl assembly works together. If the detent plate isn't held tightly against the end of the shifter drum, it can slip off the pins on the end of the drum, and just kinda flop back and forth.

Good news is that this is an easy fix, and ya don't even have to pull the primary chain to get at it!
 
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Old Jun 28, 2012 | 03:05 PM
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Curious, if the shifter or shifter pawl has problem, per poster's info, why it only happens occasionally?
 
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