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Old Oct 30, 2015 | 08:36 PM
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Remember "Ask not what your country can do for you...."
 
Old Oct 30, 2015 | 08:37 PM
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Evening, Gents!

I have 2 reasons to never forget Veteran's Day: My father and the rest of you that have served, and it is Glo's birthday.
Make sure to tell Glo we salute her!
 
Old Oct 30, 2015 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by QC
Evening, Gents!

I have 2 reasons to never forget Veteran's Day: My father and the rest of you that have served, and it is Glo's birthday.
There ya go Greg !!
 
Old Oct 30, 2015 | 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by rwhisen
Remember "Ask not what your country can do for you...."
" But what you can do for your Country " JFK
 
Old Oct 30, 2015 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by QC
Evening, Gents!

I have 2 reasons to never forget Veteran's Day: My father and the rest of you that have served, and it is Glo's birthday.
Fantastic, 2 more beers to add to my Vet's Day celebration....thanks to Dad for his service and Glo for being born.
 
Old Oct 30, 2015 | 08:46 PM
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A shame about some of my generation. Got no answers and don't measure up to many who came before. I need a drink!
 
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Keith, I wanted to share with you some impressions we had of Arches and Mesa Verde National Parks. Both parks had outstanding visitor centers which more than adequately captured and explained the park, its history and how the area came into being. Mesa Verde had a fantastic preservation area that was visible behind windows in the center which really made the connection between the visitors and what was going on behind the scenes. The reconstructed ruins were in great shape and seemed to be well supervised with interpretive guides available.

Arches NP was visually stunning. Lots of well maintained and marked trails. I was dismayed to see some of the vandalism as people try to forever memorialize their visit but there is little that can be done about that short of watching everything all the time. We didn't see so many Rangers there other than the ones writing parking tickets but it is a large park with lots of places to roam.

We were very impressed with both parks and somewhat sad we didn't have time to get to Canyonlands NP which was right down the road. Perhaps next time?
 
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Fantastic, 2 more beers to add to my Vet's Day celebration....thanks to Dad for his service and Glo for being born.
I do what I can, Mick.
 
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Old Oct 30, 2015 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by rwhisen
Keith, I wanted to share with you some impressions we had of Arches and Mesa Verde National Parks. Both parks had outstanding visitor centers which more than adequately captured and explained the park, its history and how the area came into being. Mesa Verde had a fantastic preservation area that was visible behind windows in the center which really made the connection between the visitors and what was going on behind the scenes. The reconstructed ruins were in great shape and seemed to be well supervised with interpretive guides available.

Arches NP was visually stunning. Lots of well maintained and marked trails. I was dismayed to see some of the vandalism as people try to forever memorialize their visit but there is little that can be done about that short of watching everything all the time. We didn't see so many Rangers there other than the ones writing parking tickets but it is a large park with lots of places to roam.

We were very impressed with both parks and somewhat sad we didn't have time to get to Canyonlands NP which was right down the road. Perhaps next time?
I can't agree with you more ! The parks get to keep 80% of there entrance fees the remaining 20% go into a slush fund that the smaller parks and all parks get to compete for projects and operating programs such as interpretation, law enforcement, resource management and facility maintenance. This is to level the playing field so to speak with the Yosemite type high visitation parks that get 4M visitors a year compared to Mesa Verde that get 1M. This is above and beyond there base budget which is supposed to cover daily operating costs and operations. Congress has designated very specific guidelines for what type of projects will be funded and not funded out of this fee demo $$ basically it has to benefit the visitor ! There is a whole process of project submittal, justification and mechanism's in place to set project priorities based on choosing by advantages and then # of visitors impacted, safety, public health, etc etc ! It makes your eye hurt !! I could go on but you get the idea ! I spent most of my time writing grants to compete for these funds and then matching it all to facility condition assessments and visitor use compared to administrative use ! I became a Funnin magician in the end !! and then you get the pork barrel projects and other funding sources to compete with such as federal highways, national trails programs, repair/rehab ! Its the gubberment ! The biggest issue is still the parks do not have the base budget increase they need to hire the rangers and maintenance staff to operate at the staffing levels to protect the resources ! When your competing with DOD and the NPS total budget is a little over a billion $ when one airplane costs $3B or some of the other departments its hard to compete sometimes !
 

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I'd love to spend the night by the fire in Mesa Verda. Might be an interesting place after dark!
 



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