Back Patch -- Need Serious Answer
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Road Master
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From: Springfield, MO
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From: Dirty Jersey
Then go for it. What could happen? I would love to be so secure in my knowledge that my faith would preclude any questions. I haven't seen it yet, but there"s no time like the present. No offence intended. Ride on.
Tourer
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From: Indiana
This is what I've always been told. If your not claiming territory on the bottom patch, it's really just a two piece patch, or so I've heard.
Are you a Christian oriented club that plans on using motorcycling as a tool to spread God's word, or do you just happen to be Christians from the same church that like to ride together? If your the latter, I'd change it to Motorcycle Ministry, that way people will understand what's going on when you start witnessing to them. You could look at clubs like the UnChained Gang and such to get an idea of what their patches look like.
Cruiser
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From: Eastern KY
Protocol would have you remove the bottom rocker and add M/M (for Motorcycle Ministry) to your center logo.
This does a couple of things:
1. It makes very clear you have no interest in portraying yourselves as something you're not (an MC).
2. It makes very clear that you respect those in the lifestyle for whom the 3pp is a serious tradition (just like the military vets take the traditions they've earned seriously, so do bikers who work hard for their lifestyle). Not quite the same thing, but close.
3. It makes very clear what you are: a group out to help the brotherhood, honoring both your faith and their culture. It's "in the world, not of it" kinda living.
You've gotten some really good advice here. May I suggest a link that might help in navigating the MC culture?
http://www.bikersforchrist.org/clubprotocol.htm
This does a couple of things:
1. It makes very clear you have no interest in portraying yourselves as something you're not (an MC).
2. It makes very clear that you respect those in the lifestyle for whom the 3pp is a serious tradition (just like the military vets take the traditions they've earned seriously, so do bikers who work hard for their lifestyle). Not quite the same thing, but close.
3. It makes very clear what you are: a group out to help the brotherhood, honoring both your faith and their culture. It's "in the world, not of it" kinda living.
You've gotten some really good advice here. May I suggest a link that might help in navigating the MC culture?
http://www.bikersforchrist.org/clubprotocol.htm
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Road Master
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Thank you to all who expressed an opinion on the patch, for or against. That's the kind of feedback I was hoping for.
To those who couldn't resist passing judgment on whether someone should even want to wear such a patch, you're entitled to your opinion.
I'm a middle-aged, middle-class husband and father who likes to ride motorcycles. I don't claim to know anything about the outlaw/1% biker culture. Everything I know about outlaw bikers and patches I learned from watching Wild Hogs and from reading this forum. Sometimes it's hard to separate myth from reality when it comes to this stuff, and I was just looking for some direction.
I am not necessarily in favor of ANY patch. I think I made it clear in the original post that the patch was someone else's idea, and before he takes it too far, I want to make sure he's not causing a problem for himself or anyone else.
Anyway, thanks again for the helpful feedback.
To those who couldn't resist passing judgment on whether someone should even want to wear such a patch, you're entitled to your opinion.
I'm a middle-aged, middle-class husband and father who likes to ride motorcycles. I don't claim to know anything about the outlaw/1% biker culture. Everything I know about outlaw bikers and patches I learned from watching Wild Hogs and from reading this forum. Sometimes it's hard to separate myth from reality when it comes to this stuff, and I was just looking for some direction.
I am not necessarily in favor of ANY patch. I think I made it clear in the original post that the patch was someone else's idea, and before he takes it too far, I want to make sure he's not causing a problem for himself or anyone else.
Anyway, thanks again for the helpful feedback.
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From: AZ
An honest opinion.....
Put it all in one single patch and put RC on it.
Once you have seperate patches, the word "Motorcycle Club" or an "MC" patch and ride a Harley...you're in MC world like it or not. A trip to the confederation is in order, permission from your dominate mc in your state is in order ect...
Single Patch RC's are safe 100% from MC Club world protocol.
Enjoy your new riding group and rack those miles up...
Put it all in one single patch and put RC on it.
Once you have seperate patches, the word "Motorcycle Club" or an "MC" patch and ride a Harley...you're in MC world like it or not. A trip to the confederation is in order, permission from your dominate mc in your state is in order ect...
Single Patch RC's are safe 100% from MC Club world protocol.
Enjoy your new riding group and rack those miles up...
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Road Captain
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From: Fort Worth, TX
+1 on that.
Motorcycle Ministry's from my experience are very active in the MC lifestyle. In this area they participate in COC's as chaplains, do bike blessings, come to the hospital when a patch holder goes down (regardless of the club) and are held in high regard for being so involved in MC culture.
But these MM's here have followed proper MC protocol to establish their ministry with the intentions of being fully involved in our world and to fulfill their goal of ministering to the biker community.
If your group is just going to be a group of riders who all happen to go the same church together then make it an RC. If your planning on being involved in the MC culture in your area and attending events and participating with the COC, etc. then you should go MM but in my opinion that would entail following traditional MC protocol to establish that.
Again, that's just my opinion based on my previous personal experiences with MM's here.