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It's got it's good and bad side. Too often club members are by default associated by citizens with 1% clubs. Being a club member myself and hanging with 1%ers over the years it's easy to see how and why the good people react to anyone wearing colors. It still comes down to knowing what you are doing and where you are. Common sense...
There are a different set of rules with patch holders and the majority of society have no clue as to what is proper protocol. Riding a bike and wearing leather does come with its own set of rules and regulations.
First of all any business can refuse if they have it posted and no bar should allow it as people don't understand M/C's and think they are all bad which we know they are not but the perseption is there. Also I know a lot of club members and of all of them I know none of them wear their colors to work and I did ask them why and they some said it's not allowed and some said they don't want their boss to know they are in a club. I also know some that own their own business and out of 6 of them only one of them allow colors in their business...so in my opinion that answers that and out of respect they should always take off their colors or go to their clubhouse afterall that's what it is for.
Various 1% clubs have sued businesses that have tried to use this to make them remove their colors, and they have won. Perhaps some HOG members should try the same thing
I don't believe or dis-believe in the whole colors thing; to each his own and I'll respect you either way as long as I'm not screwed with. I've ridden with 1 club for many years who has their own colors (not even close to a 1% club, just work related) but I do it very seldom (like maybe twice a year) and I will NEVER wear colors on a ride. I don't feel the need or desire to say to anyone "hey I belong". For me, this all started about 12 years ago when I was in Galveston and someone walked up behind me on a public street in broad daylight, whipped out a knife and cut/ripped the patch off my back and as I turned around to see wtf was going on, was told by a little dweeb looking guy (who could probably kick my *** himself) that was backed by about 6 other guys to never wear colors in Galveston again. Most of the time it's me and my friends putting along minding our own business but I can and will say that we've been places where colors (regardless of who they are) are allowed and not frowned upon by business owners or patrons with some of those experiences being great ones and great friends made from it and then there are some that just flat out make me as a 6'5" 255lb 15+ year HD rider who can carry his own, very uncomfortable.
So I agree that if a business owner feels the need to hang a sign on the window saying no colors, then he should be able to do so without worrying about the repercussions of some ridiculous lawsuit coming back at him. People go where they choose to go, not where they're forced to go and if you so happen upon an establishment that doesn't condone colors for whatever reason they choose to, then I say move on down the road.
The problem I see these days is people are their own worst enemy.. Idiots who think they have the right to do anything they want, wherever they want, whenever they want, and to whomever they want without consequences and we have no one to blame for that feeling of "righteousness" other than our own joke of a legal system and ESPECIALLY the news media for sensationalizing everything they do.
20 years ago, do you think Iraq, Iran, North Korea, Afghanistan, etc. would have known we were launching a full on assault with our military. Hell no! It would have been at least mildly a surprise. Not today! They know we're coming before we ever step foot off of US soil. Thank News Media!
My GF and I were waiting outside a strip club to get in when the bouncer told a guy walking up with his GF that he wasnt allowed inside wear a plain white t-shirt... their "no Colors" rule is apparently a little bit different.
Wouldn't this be covered under the First Amendment; Right of the people to peaceably assemble and freedom of association and all that..?
I agree that a business can decide who they wish to serve or deny service, but at a public event, in a public place, don't the wearers of colors have 1st Am. protection?
First of all any business can refuse if they have it posted and no bar should allow it as people don't understand M/C's and think they are all bad which we know they are not but the perseption is there. Also I know a lot of club members and of all of them I know none of them wear their colors to work and I did ask them why and they some said it's not allowed and some said they don't want their boss to know they are in a club. I also know some that own their own business and out of 6 of them only one of them allow colors in their business...so in my opinion that answers that and out of respect they should always take off their colors or go to their clubhouse afterall that's what it is for.
Unfortunately some see the big Harley Owners Group patches to be colours,
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