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So I'm digging the Enforcer front wheel and have a bid in on a bare wheel. I've been searching and have found that I'll need a bunch of miscellaneous other parts including 08 and up rotors and calipers, bearings, sleeves, and maybe an axle. I've also read that in order to use the Brembo calipers that it's necessary to swap out the front master cylinder because of the mc's bore size. Is all that true? If you've successfully retrofitted one to a pre 08 bike, what would your advice be? Would I need brake lines too?
I just finished this upgrade to my 99 electra. Being that I have a 99 the front axel was a 3/4" and I had the old single piston calipers. I wanted to upgrade the brakes and front suspension anyhow so I went ***** deep. I replaced the forks with a set of take offs from a 2004. The forks fit both a 1" axel and the newest 25mm axel which gives me far more wheel options for the future. I also picked up a complete take off set of front brembo calipers (NON ABS) and master cylinder with brake lines. It's best to buy them as a complete set or piece them together... But you need the non abs stuff or your gonna be hating yourself later. First of all you can NOT retrofit the new abs to your bike. It has a completely different module and the lines get routed to behind the battery box or somewhere stupid. The lines front and rear both feed into the abs module or pump so it's a pointless system for us to try to retro. YOU WOULD ALSO NEED THE COMPUTER THE ABS CAME WITH. that being said... Let me continue, the front wheel will need to have non abs bearings and a spacer, this is important!!! The abs bearings are different widths and will shift the wheel far from center on the axel so beware of this. STICK TO NON ABS PARTS! The brake lines do need to be from a non abs brembo brake touring bike.. 2008 and up all the same. The brake lines have a different banjo fitting that is unique to the brembo brakes and your existing lines will NOT work. You also need the master to get the right pressure fed to these calipers.
On to the wheel. Like I said you want non abs bearings, and any 2008 and up 25mm touring axel with stock non abs spacers. (Btw 25mm and 1" are very different) The rotors are unique to the enforcer and the agitator wheel ONLY!! They are pretty expensive and also have special spring washers and bolts that are a one time use only. Meaning once they are installed they cannot be taken off and re-installed due to the spring washers. The whole kit from harley is only around $35 for all the bolts and washers...that's cheap compared to the safety factor and what your hog would cost to repair if them brakes failed due to reused crap. Ok so now you got the rotors, bolts and washers, axel, spacers, calipers, brake lines, and master cylinder... Is that all? Well I thought so but I couldn't have the new master cylinder with this new style lever and have the older style clutch lever mismatched so I had to buy that too... That's really a matter of preference on your part tho.
Your stock legs will work with the newer brembos, the forks from 2002 and up have the same bolt pattern so the brembos will bolt right on. The brembos are already spaced to accept the larger diameter rotors too so you have no worries there either.
Oh and you want a good set of pads too.
If you buy all the crap I listed you will have no issues retro fitting that hog with an awesome new wheel/rotor/brake combo and have some crazy stopping power to boot. Any questions feel free to hit me up or ask away here!!
Gotta go.. It's beer:30
Last edited by Murder_bags; May 6, 2015 at 12:55 AM.
Tagging this as I have the Agitator going on my 01 Road King by an Indy (along with more than I have time to write in a day). Bunch of good info provided by Murder_bags but I stayed with my chrome HD calipers. Did however go with the chrome rotors/hardware which cost a ton, almost $500 as I recall. I know he had to shim the calipers to clear the rotors.
How do you shim the calipers? My hand controls and front MC are chrome, and it would really save me some money if I could stick with it as opposed to getting another. Did you reuse your stock brake lines, or are they 08 and up too?
Just for clarification for those looking to upgrade to Brembo calipers...if your buying used it doesn't matter whether the donor bike was ABS or not. The calipers are not ABS or NON-ABS specific. The only difference will be the brake lines if your buying as a complete setup.
How do you shim the calipers? My hand controls and front MC are chrome, and it would really save me some money if I could stick with it as opposed to getting another. Did you reuse your stock brake lines, or are they 08 and up too?
As the rotors are a bit bigger he used shims to bring the caliper out just a tad further where they mount to the fork legs at the bolts. Hope that is clear but I am a bit fuzzy yet and coffee has not kicked in.
I just finished this upgrade to my 99 electra. Being that I have a 99 the front axel was a 3/4" and I had the old single piston calipers. I wanted to upgrade the brakes and front suspension anyhow so I went ***** deep. I replaced the forks with a set of take offs from a 2004. The forks fit both a 1" axel and the newest 25mm axel which gives me far more wheel options for the future. I also picked up a complete take off set of front brembo calipers (NON ABS) and master cylinder with brake lines. It's best to buy them as a complete set or piece them together... But you need the non abs stuff or your gonna be hating yourself later. First of all you can NOT retrofit the new abs to your bike. It has a completely different module and the lines get routed to behind the battery box or somewhere stupid. The lines front and rear both feed into the abs module or pump so it's a pointless system for us to try to retro. YOU WOULD ALSO NEED THE COMPUTER THE ABS CAME WITH. that being said... Let me continue, the front wheel will need to have non abs bearings and a spacer, this is important!!! The abs bearings are different widths and will shift the wheel far from center on the axel so beware of this. STICK TO NON ABS PARTS! The brake lines do need to be from a non abs brembo brake touring bike.. 2008 and up all the same. The brake lines have a different banjo fitting that is unique to the brembo brakes and your existing lines will NOT work. You also need the master to get the right pressure fed to these calipers.
On to the wheel. Like I said you want non abs bearings, and any 2008 and up 25mm touring axel with stock non abs spacers. (Btw 25mm and 1" are very different) The rotors are unique to the enforcer and the agitator wheel ONLY!! They are pretty expensive and also have special spring washers and bolts that are a one time use only. Meaning once they are installed they cannot be taken off and re-installed due to the spring washers. The whole kit from harley is only around $35 for all the bolts and washers...that's cheap compared to the safety factor and what your hog would cost to repair if them brakes failed due to reused crap. Ok so now you got the rotors, bolts and washers, axel, spacers, calipers, brake lines, and master cylinder... Is that all? Well I thought so but I couldn't have the new master cylinder with this new style lever and have the older style clutch lever mismatched so I had to buy that too... That's really a matter of preference on your part tho.
Your stock legs will work with the newer brembos, the forks from 2002 and up have the same bolt pattern so the brembos will bolt right on. The brembos are already spaced to accept the larger diameter rotors too so you have no worries there either.
Oh and you want a good set of pads too.
If you buy all the crap I listed you will have no issues retro fitting that hog with an awesome new wheel/rotor/brake combo and have some crazy stopping power to boot. Any questions feel free to hit me up or ask away here!!
Gotta go.. It's beer:30
Thanks for this concise answer. So to recap if I buy a bare wheel I'll need the tire and rotors, because the stock rotors won't bolt up to the wheels. Then with the complete wheel in hand I'll still need 1 inch non abs bearings to reuse my existing axle and new wheel spacers, calipers, master cylinder, pads and matching clutch lever. I'm going to have to gather parts a bit at a time, it looks like a significant dollar amount if done in one shot. Mike, are you saying the Agitator uses an 11.5 inch rotor, or an 11.8 like the Enforcer?
Last edited by just plain john; May 6, 2015 at 05:38 PM.
Mike, are you saying the Agitator uses an 11.5 inch rotor, or an 11.8 like the Enforcer?
11.8 and, hence the need to shim and yes, pretty costly all the way around. Could have bought the standard rotors as opposed to chrome or polished but already into it pretty far so went the step further. Again, I only did this to fill the Klockwerks Wrapper fender.
This is my second late model wheel on my bike using the 1" hardware. To mount the 2014-15 Enforcer on the 2000-2007. You need a complete wheel, the tire, rotors, bearings. A take off. A pair of '08 up calipers and 2) 9247 bearings. You use your axle and outer spacers. Replace the bearings, trim your spacers to .780" wide, mount the wheel and calipers. You can also upgrade to the '08 up brake line if you wish.
11.8 and, hence the need to shim and yes, pretty costly all the way around. Could have bought the standard rotors as opposed to chrome or polished but already into it pretty far so went the step further. Again, I only did this to fill the Klockwerks Wrapper fender.
You're using a pre 08 caliper on an 11.8 inch rotor? I must be confused about shimming. I get shimming it east/west to center the caliper over the rotor, but I don't get shimming it north/south (away from the axle centerline).
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