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Old Jun 15, 2015 | 01:55 PM
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I already got the shipping notice. That was pretty quick. Yesterday, Howard Messner said he had the parts in stock and would build it today. Just got the UPS email.

FWIW, I will post my thoughts on the whole experience when I get the shocks and install them. I am most interested in seeing how the shocks improve the ride more than anything. I am very curious. Everyone seems to rave about Ohlin but unfortunately I having nothing to compare it to but stock. I never had any need or desire for shock upgrades in my four-wheeled rides so I have absolutely no experience with the subject. All I knew up to now was shocks stabilize the chassis and keep things from going bang when you hit bumps. Riding about 50,000 miles the past few years has greatly increased my appreciation for the importance of shocks to a good ride when on two wheels. If anything, after talking with Howard Messner at his shop, I now know what rebound and compression damping is and why it is important.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2015 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by MiniWolf
Brake dive still exists to an extent under heavy braking--as in grabbing a handful. I dont think any system will eliminate that. But as far as what it used to be, it is quite better and I am pleased with it. It is no longer annoying.

I ordered the Ohlin shock from Motorcycle Metal

The model numbers are strange(#2-4 ADJ) but these are the specs:

336mm/13 1/4", 94mm/3.7" Stroke,
emulsified & Sweep Valve Adjustable,
Threaded Body Adjustable Spring Pre-Load

I got $135 off for the forum discount so can't complain there. All my research had Ohlin selling for regular MSRP from other vendors. Given that with the discount it now put me in a decent price range, I just took the gamble that this offered the best price/performance ratio for me. As I mentioned, I will really have no way of knowing as I will have nothing to compare it to other than stock. I just was taken in by the praise for Ohlin, I guess. We will see how it works out.
These are (I think) the same ones I ordered from Howard back in 2013. I think he called them "2.5's" at the time. No sure. Anyway, I absolutely love these shocks. Unfortunately, and at least on my 2003 King, it leaves the front woefully inadequate. I'm actually considering the Traxxion Dynamics ak-20 kit as we speak.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2015 | 02:23 PM
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Subscribed. Good thread!!!
 
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Old Jun 15, 2015 | 02:37 PM
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My deciding factory was that there was a pair of Hand adjustable premium shocks from a CVO Roadglide on there, and I won the bid for $264 shipped. For the money, they made the bike ride a whole lot better. When I sell the original HD Low Profile shocks I had, it will be even better.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2015 | 02:43 PM
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Here's a link to a thread I started a week or so ago. Take it for what its worth.


https://www.hdforums.com/forum/touri...-air-ride.html
 
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Old Jun 15, 2015 | 03:31 PM
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I also have the #2-adj from howard. I've got about 180-200 miles on them so far and all I can say is why the hell did I wait to put his shocks on! Ride quality is a night and day difference! You will be glad you spent the money!!
 
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Old Jun 15, 2015 | 04:10 PM
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Curious to hear what you think of the Ohlins after you get them installed MiniWolf. I'm riding my bike down to FL this weekend. I bought a set of the #2-#2A and Howard is gonna do the install at his shop. I finally get to meet the man himself and the shocks will be all broken in when I ride back to NC.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2015 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by mainboom150
to address your brake dive first off a heavier weight oil is needed if your still getting brake dive. and I have progressive 944's I got them for the ride height and the extended travel in the shock itself
Assuming he has monotubes, heavier weight oil wont help, the oil you put it is just for lubrication, not pressure.

You want *some* brake dive, it would not be fun or helpful to eliminate it completely.

You just want to stop the wallowing of the stock setup.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2015 | 04:59 PM
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Subscribed....looking at upgrading suspension stuff for my next project too!
 
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Originally Posted by Keithhu
Assuming he has monotubes, heavier weight oil wont help, the oil you put it is just for lubrication, not pressure.

You want *some* brake dive, it would not be fun or helpful to eliminate it completely.

You just want to stop the wallowing of the stock setup.
Yes, they are the monotubes. There is still brake dive left but not nearly as annoying as the stock setup. And even though it didn't turn it into a sportbike, the kit seems to have smoothed out the ride in the front quite a bit on rough pavement and made the steering a bit lighter in feel.

Based on specs, it doesn't seem as sophisticated as some of the more pricey options. When I was talking to Howard Messner on the phone and mentioned this upgrade, he didn't seem too impressed with this kit and didn't seem to like Progressive at all. But I definitely think it was worth the $240 I spent for them. I think most people would probably find it a worthwhile upgrade over the stock springs if you can't afford the more expensive kits. The change for the better is definitely noticeable when compared to stock.
 
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