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Old Jul 23, 2015 | 10:39 AM
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I would think if they are telling you to use the same map there is a reason behind that.
Did they tell you that is still the best map for the new mufflers? or did they just blow you off?
Have you tried auto tuning?
 
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Old Jul 23, 2015 | 11:05 AM
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to AutoTune would suggest you have pre-08 head pipes with 18mm bungs near the heads. Without the bungs the only way is to slip a sniffer up each muffler.
 
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Old Jul 23, 2015 | 11:31 AM
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I use the PCV on my '13 Limited, have the 18mm bungs and ran Autotune on my build. I have the V&H Power Duals and Monster Rounds, Stage 1 Air Cleaner, and Woods TW555 cams. Our cams are similar so you may consider trying my program that is working great for my build. or look to see where you could improve your program. Download the program, change the extension from .xls to .pvm before using.

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Andrews 57H .560”/.560” 236˚/240˚ Intake – 21˚ATDC/41˚ABDC 0.184” / 0.153”
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Woods 555 .555”/.555” 242˚/242˚Intake – 18˚ATDC/38˚ABDC 0.189” / 0.178”
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Old Jul 23, 2015 | 11:45 AM
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Fuel Moto did not blow me off, they just said run the same map.
Keith from FM did get back to me an hour ago with a map to try.

Scrmnvtwins, I generally shy away from programming. I will take a copy and learn more about the PCV. I have zero experience with it. I am not even sure what to do with these new Maps and My old map.

Thanks for the Help
 
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Old Jul 23, 2015 | 12:34 PM
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Unfortunately, no two bikes are alike, even if they were the same year/make/model/upgrades they might perform differently with the same tune - hence is why most people opt for the PV over the PC, the PV has Autotune which lets you fine tune the MAP you get.
I think you might want to try a few different PC MAPS to see if any might work better for your bike but if FM is telling you the one to upload, it's probably going to be the closest match to your set-up.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2015 | 11:38 PM
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To add your low end torque back, you should consider adding a pair of Monster Baffles from Big City Thunder into your header pipes. I added a pair to my dresser duals using CFRs and Voila! They did the trick!
 
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Old Oct 1, 2015 | 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by TcHunter
I would think if they are telling you to use the same map there is a reason behind that.
Did they tell you that is still the best map for the new mufflers? or did they just blow you off?
Have you tried auto tuning?
Personally, I have had many problems with their maps.... And after making many changes to my bike, and asking them for a new map (as advertised with their PV - free lifetime maps), they would send me the same old map....

I got 3 maps in a row with the ACR's turned off.... Even after complaining on the phone about the ACRs being turned off- the next map they sent me had them disabled as well....

Hope you have better luck than me....
 
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Old Oct 1, 2015 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by C.H.L.
I got 3 maps in a row with the ACR's turned off.... Even after complaining on the phone about the ACRs being turned off- the next map they sent me had them disabled as well....

Hope you have better luck than me....
You do realize with the PV you can turn your ACR's on and off via the PV, you don't need a special map!
 
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Old Oct 1, 2015 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by hd_rolling
You do realize with the PV you can turn your ACR's on and off via the PV, you don't need a special map!
Yep, I realize that....

You do realize a "reputable company" specializing in performance and tuning should not be sending maps with them disabled- right?

My personal opinion- when you have to double check someone's work (and half the time it's wrong) - you got the wrong person doing the job.
 
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