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I have a buddy that has the ohlins and we road the same test track on each other's bikes and we both found that it was very hard to tell a difference in shocks.
From my understanding, I still have the older valve version and maybe that has some to do with it?!?
Yes i read your thread before purchasing and it was very helpful. It's nice to see they worked for you too!
just curious, did your CVO Limited come with air suspension or the premium adjustable?
I would think, To get the "perfect" ride on an aftermarket shock, yes the valving for compression and rebound have to be relatively close but more importantly you should have 2 sets of springs. 1 set for solo riding and another set for 2 up riding. When these shock manufactures ask your weight and the riders weight etc, etc they are putting a shock together that meets the needs found in between your needs. If it rides harsh solo yet nice 2-up that's a good example of to stiff a spring solo. I am not sure about what spring's the shock guy's are using but I would want to know the "rate" of said spring. Meaning how much force to move the spring 1". There are a lot of spring manufactures and you can get different lengths, different weights. If you have a real nice ride let's say solo, You aren't going to get the same ride 2-up when adding say 100 - 150 lbs. Not by "changing rebound or compression". You have to change springs to compensate. JMO
Thats a valid point. I told pro-action that i ride 90% solo, and my pillion is under 100#, so perhaps the springs i was setup with are more "optimal" for me solo
I've owned Progressive 940 , Ricor , Ohlins #3-#3 , the original JRi and Ohlins #6 . The Ricor I never could dial in , the others I was able to dial in both solo and 2 up , I do not believe you need 2 sets of springs to do this . You need a spring soft enough to dial it in for you solo and then just add enough preload for 2 up and you should be fine . The problem often is enough preload is not added for 2 up , it could be 7 or more complete turns stiffer and most people want to add just 2 or 3 turns. Also with most brand of shocks you will get a much smoother ride with softer springs and a lot of preload versus stiffer springs and less preload
I've owned Progressive 940 , Ricor , Ohlins #3-#3 , the original JRi and Ohlins #6 . The Ricor I never could dial in , the others I was able to dial in both solo and 2 up , I do not believe you need 2 sets of springs to do this . You need a spring soft enough to dial it in for you solo and then just add enough preload for 2 up and you should be fine . The problem often is enough preload is not added for 2 up , it could be 7 or more complete turns stiffer and most people want to add just 2 or 3 turns. Also with most brand of shocks you will get a much smoother ride with softer springs and a lot of preload versus stiffer springs and less preload
I understand your disagreement as I'm sure many others may disagree with me but I have to tell you I think I have tried every setting possible especially with the super Shox. That sweet spot is alluding me! I don't think it exists. I know what I'm looking for but I can't find it. Keep in mind I may be more picky than the next guy and when I ask myself are these shocks 6 or 7 hundred dollars better than what came with the bike, I have to answer, "no".
Sure, I will comment.
I have Super Shox on my bike now and have had them for 3 months, about 2500 miles. They took a while to figure out exactly where they needed to be, but I got the idea to offset them and it worked! The ride is now cushy but not spongy, and on the big bumps that threw me off of my seat on my stock shocks get handled with poise and you can feel the bike just settle back down softly. The handling is also much improved.
My wife is convinced that it is a completely different bike now. The roads out here in HI aren't the greatest, and we have plenty of experience riding the same roads with a much different result.
Now I need to do the front end. I am torn between the premium low Harley shocks or the Progressive monotube cartridge jobs. I've been looking for a head to head with those to no avail. All of the reviews on the Harley ones get high praise though.
Just changing the rear shocks amplifies the shortcomings of the front. Those that are not getting the optimal ride, change your front shocks before you go through all of the rear brands to get a fair chance at how the bike can ride/handle when properly set up.
I have Super Shox on my bike now and have had them for 3 months, about 2500 miles. They took a while to figure out exactly where they needed to be, but I got the idea to offset them and it worked!
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