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Old Jan 27, 2016 | 06:55 PM
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Great info, thanks, that's exactly what I was looking for, like I mentioned earlier I went ahead and ordered one. I might pick up a 400 ohm resister also and give it a shot too.
Just so we are clear the resistor needs to be 5.5K not 400 in parallel, in the name of attempting to answer first I made an error and corrected it with an edit, by the way those gauges will look real good as long as they aren't too bright at night.
 

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Originally Posted by HardRider1
Just so we are clear the resistor needs to be 5.5K not 400 in parallel, in the name of attempting to answer first I made an error and corrected it with an edit, by the way those gauges will look real good as long as they aren't too bright at night.
Ok, 5.5K it is, thanks again.
 

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Old Jan 27, 2016 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Buelligan666
That would add ten more to the total from his stock sender.

OP, you could run it the way it is. Worst case scenario, if the high number is full and low number is empty, it'll read full longer and won't reach completely empty on the gauge. If you want to do the math, you might find a resistor value that when hooked in parallel would bring the overall impedance down. The problem is, it will do this as a ratio to the total resistance.

This site has an online calculator.

Using that calculator, you would need a 5.5k ohm resistor in parallel with the sending unit to make the 251 come down to 240. But that would barely reduce the 39.8 below 39.5 ohm. To make the low side 39.8 come down to the 33 ohms you're after you'd need a 193 ohm resistor. This will have a much larger effect on your high end resistance, it would drop to 109 ohms. If I were you, I'd try it the way it is, the difference is minimal. It can't be any worse than the gauge that came with the bike from the factory.
It's really been a long, long while since I was an electronics technician so forgive my weak attempt.
I thought the fuel sender was a simple DC circuit and not AC (impedance) and the OP's sender changes state from 251.5 - 39.8 ohms.
I figured adding 10 ohms (or thereabouts) to a 240-33 ohm circuit would give him 250-43 ohms which would be close to the range. Hell I forget.

A resistive decade box would be useful here...lol
 
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Originally Posted by lp
It's really been a long, long while since I was an electronics technician so forgive my weak attempt.
I thought the fuel sender was a simple DC circuit and not AC (impedance) and the OP's sender changes state from 251.5 - 39.8 ohms.
I figured adding 10 ohms (or thereabouts) to a 240-33 ohm circuit would give him 250-43 ohms which would be close to the range. Hell I forget.

A resistive decade box would be useful here...lol
Don't feel bad. it's been 20 yrs since I graduated tech school. I misspoke saying impedance. I always revert back to the car audio stuff. It is a resistance he's after, but he needs to lower the resistance coming from his sending unit (251.5 - 39.8) to the new gauge requirement of 240 - 33. Looks like he got it figured out now. I was unclear whether the high reading was full or empty. It'll still probably work better than the factory gauge no matter what!
 
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Originally Posted by HardRider1
Just so we are clear the resistor needs to be 5.5K not 400 in parallel, in the name of attempting to answer first I made an error and corrected it with an edit, by the way those gauges will look real good as long as they aren't too bright at night.


Reciprocal formula for parallel resistance: 1 / (1/x (R1) + 1/x (R2))= RT
 
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Old Jan 27, 2016 | 10:15 PM
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Reciprocal formula for parallel resistance: 1 / (1/x (R1) + 1/x (R2))= RT
That's Greek to me which is why I asked for help.
 
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I'm no electrical genius but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night
 
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I'm no electrical genius but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night
Good one
 
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