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Old Aug 23, 2016 | 01:36 PM
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...and the public beta testing commences.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2016 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Buelligan666
Your old bike is fine.
The EPA isn't going to come confiscate your ride.
........... yet

Originally Posted by beary
..... The downside is the engine is becoming so complicated that few owners will be able to work on them at home.
..... from the MoCo's standpoint that's a feature, not a bug
 
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Old Aug 23, 2016 | 01:40 PM
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Not Harley's first 4 valve per head motor.

http://www.fredlangerestorations.com...lve_motor.html
 
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Old Aug 23, 2016 | 01:46 PM
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With the increase in power/torque and better mpg of the '8' over the 103HO motor, does that mean riders will be less likely to do the Stage I?
 
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Old Aug 23, 2016 | 01:47 PM
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The other question I have is: one lifter/pushrod/rocker arm actuates two valves each. When the valve seats recede (especially the exhaust valves) how are valve clearances going to be uniform given that valve seats can recede at different rates?[/QUOTE]

Actually, one lifter/pushrod actuates two rocker arms/valves. One of the two rockers will have an adjustment screw to sync actuation of the valves. It can be adjusted from time to time if needed. Similar to the Yamaha 102 V-Twin design.

Well now that I've seen the rocker arms in the cycleworld pics, there is no adjustment screw. Given that when I went to adjust this screw on my previous Roadstar, and it never required adjustment, maybe none is required.
 

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Originally Posted by beary
The downside is the engine is becoming so complicated that few owners will be able to work on them at home.

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And for all the complication and Rube Goldberg engineering still falls far too short on performance compared to.........everything else.
 

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Originally Posted by yowflhtk
The other question I have is: one lifter/pushrod/rocker arm actuates two valves each. When the valve seats recede (especially the exhaust valves) how are valve clearances going to be uniform given that valve seats can recede at different rates?
Actually, one lifter/pushrod actuates two rocker arms/valves. One of the two rockers will have an adjustment screw to sync actuation of the valves. It can be adjusted from time to time if needed. Similar to the Yamaha 102 V-Twin design.[/QUOTE]

So valve lash clearance does need to be checked. Right?

I get it that HD says no but I can see the burnt exhaust valve seat cases coming.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2016 | 02:20 PM
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Per the Cycleworld article:

"Small details are important. In the past, if the oil was overfilled, excess oil could wet the air filter via the breather. This has now been rerouted through the transmission case."

YESSSSSS!!!

http://www.cycleworld.com/harley-dav...engine#page-10
 
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And for all the complication and Rube Goldberg engineering still falls far too short on performance compared to.........everything else.
Yep, and folks can trade in their Harley for any of those other bikes.

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what do you figure this means?

"Harley will also offer “street legal” performance enhancement packages that kick the torque up a further 24%, the company said."
The parts have gone through testing & are CARB approved & certified.
 
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