Woods 777 cams
Sponsor
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 12,084
Likes: 829
After now working with Wood cams for 20 years now, I'll chime in.
Will the Wood 777 "work" in a stock compression bike? Yes, BUT, will work correctly at 10.45 cr.
At that point the ccp is up enough to correctly support the intake closing number, allowing the cam to expose itself, creating very good low-mid power.
That said, if looking for a plug/play in the Wood line-up, the 222 would be a better choice, if a .030" head gasket........then the 5-6, or a CR .575.
2 plug/play cams we have also witnessed manufacturing great touring power in a 103", are the Andrews 48, and the CR .570.
Great power in the 2200-5000 rpm ranges.
Not a google search.....
Scott
Will the Wood 777 "work" in a stock compression bike? Yes, BUT, will work correctly at 10.45 cr.
At that point the ccp is up enough to correctly support the intake closing number, allowing the cam to expose itself, creating very good low-mid power.
That said, if looking for a plug/play in the Wood line-up, the 222 would be a better choice, if a .030" head gasket........then the 5-6, or a CR .575.
2 plug/play cams we have also witnessed manufacturing great touring power in a 103", are the Andrews 48, and the CR .570.
Great power in the 2200-5000 rpm ranges.
Not a google search.....
Scott
Last edited by Hillsidecycle.com; Oct 10, 2016 at 05:38 AM.
Grand HDF Member
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 3,917
Likes: 184
From:
They will but if I was going to shave the heads a bit I'd go ahead and do some work on them and that will really bring it to life. As far as stock goes, yes but make sure you have a good combo with it such as exhaust, breather and a great dyno tuner.
Just to show the difference in the right combo I'll post pretty much the same build as my signature except, the exhaust. The one that made 110 hp had Power duals with CFR mufflers. J&B tried to talk this guy out of this exhaust but he liked the sound, look at the difference in the tq. curve.
Just to show the difference in the right combo I'll post pretty much the same build as my signature except, the exhaust. The one that made 110 hp had Power duals with CFR mufflers. J&B tried to talk this guy out of this exhaust but he liked the sound, look at the difference in the tq. curve.
Last edited by Tn.Heritage; Oct 10, 2016 at 07:31 AM.
Road Master
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 774
Likes: 54
From: Brandenburg,Ky
After now working with Wood cams for 20 years now, I'll chime in.
Will the Wood 777 "work" in a stock compression bike? Yes, BUT, will work correctly at 10.45 cr.
At that point the ccp is up enough to correctly support the intake closing number, allowing the cam to expose itself, creating very good low-mid power.
That said, if looking for a plug/play in the Wood line-up, the 222 would be a better choice, if a .030" head gasket........then the 5-6, or a CR .575.
2 plug/play cams we have also witnessed manufacturing great touring power in a 103", are the Andrews 48, and the CR .570.
Great power in the 2200-5000 rpm ranges.
Not a google search.....
Scott
Will the Wood 777 "work" in a stock compression bike? Yes, BUT, will work correctly at 10.45 cr.
At that point the ccp is up enough to correctly support the intake closing number, allowing the cam to expose itself, creating very good low-mid power.
That said, if looking for a plug/play in the Wood line-up, the 222 would be a better choice, if a .030" head gasket........then the 5-6, or a CR .575.
2 plug/play cams we have also witnessed manufacturing great touring power in a 103", are the Andrews 48, and the CR .570.
Great power in the 2200-5000 rpm ranges.
Not a google search.....
Scott
Sponsor
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 12,084
Likes: 829
Andrews 48, or a CR.570, would be what we'd reach for here.
Either will push off big torque right in that range, with many smiles from the clients.
We have both on the shelf, with all else needed to facilitate easy installation.
BTW, both tune off very easily as well.
Scott
Either will push off big torque right in that range, with many smiles from the clients.
We have both on the shelf, with all else needed to facilitate easy installation.
BTW, both tune off very easily as well.
Scott
Outstanding HDF Member
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 2,482
Likes: 239
From: Minnesota
Also look at the 999-6a. I've ran both woods 555 and 999-6a in a stock 103, only intake and exhaust upgrades. I think the 999-6a pull better in the bottom and carries longer up top. I just tuned with a vision tuner and haven't had a dyno yet. The 999-6a is exhaust sensitive tho, a good 2/1 is best.
Sponsor
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 12,084
Likes: 829
See the bottom? Soft.
Not the low end nut that is generated by either the 222, Andrews 48, or CR, 575.
Andrews 48 will pop about the same hp, but pile on the torque peak at 111-114 ft/lbs, all in by 3600 rpms, as a plug/play in a 103", as an example.
Makes the bike feel very nimble.
A well tuned 103", with only mufflers and air filter will push 102-104 ft/lbs, striking great torque down low, and 78-82 hp, from our tuning experience.
Scott
Not the low end nut that is generated by either the 222, Andrews 48, or CR, 575.
Andrews 48 will pop about the same hp, but pile on the torque peak at 111-114 ft/lbs, all in by 3600 rpms, as a plug/play in a 103", as an example.
Makes the bike feel very nimble.
A well tuned 103", with only mufflers and air filter will push 102-104 ft/lbs, striking great torque down low, and 78-82 hp, from our tuning experience.
Scott
Road Captain
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 675
Likes: 17
From: Broken Bow, Oklahoma
He getting like 101hp/109tq
You may have some left on the table.
HD Forum Stories
The Best of Harley-Davidson for Lifelong Riders
7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles
Verdad Gallardo
8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever
Pouria Savadkouei
10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever
Pouria Savadkouei
Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In
Verdad Gallardo
Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?
Verdad Gallardo
Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept
Verdad Gallardo
Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II
Verdad Gallardo
10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy
Joe Kucinski
10 Things Harley-Davidson Needs to Fix in 2026
Verdad Gallardo
A couple years ago we did a test of the stock Rushmore cams, TW-222, TW-555, & TW-777 cams in a 2014 FLHTK Twin Cooled 103, for each test we changed nothing but the cam & appropriate tune. As you can see each cam had slightly different characteristics, however the cam is only one element of the overall combination, and relative as such. The most important element is to have an assortment of components that complements each other, the end result is only as good as the sum of parts.
__________________
Jamie Long / Fuel Moto USA
The USA's Leader V-Twin EFI & Performance www.fuelmotousa.com
Contact 920-423-3309
Email jamie@fuelmotousa.com
Jamie Long / Fuel Moto USA
The USA's Leader V-Twin EFI & Performance www.fuelmotousa.com
Contact 920-423-3309
Email jamie@fuelmotousa.com
Sponsor
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 12,084
Likes: 829
An early intake closing cam such as a Wood 222, Andrews 48, or CR, .570/575 is where we see things happening, on the average dyno, for the average 103", in a pure plug/play application, and have worked with all of the above, on many occasion.
Anyone can take that, for what it is worth.
Scott
Anyone can take that, for what it is worth.
Scott