Ultra Limited- used 17, new 18 or wait for 19
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From: Virginia Beach
I am looking at selling or trading my 17 Heritage for an Ultra Limited for 2 up touring. The Heritage is ok for short 150-200 miles 2 up, but thats about it.
I want an M8 model. I am prepared to deal with the possible "issues". Please dont let this thread devolve into yet another discussion of the issues that have been discussed AD NASEUM... I'm aware of them, I am aware of the fixes, etc...
I have an 18 Slim for running around town.
Anyway I am running through 3 trains of thought here.
Used 2017. I would do an oil pump/cam plate kit from either S&S or Feuling as well as the CVO clutch push rod or $stonecold's fix(or maybe both) to fix the two biggest issues I see with these bikes. I wouldnt feel bad about doing it on a 2017 thats almost out of warranty.
New 2018. SHOULD have the latest oil pump in it from Harley so that helps my thoughts on possible sumping. While I would still feel better with the S&S parts or Feuling parts in it, I understand the newest Harley oil pump has a massive increase in pumping volume. I would probably install the CVO clutch push rod to possibly(from the reports I am reading so far) eliminate any problem with fluid transfer as I cant see Harley voiding a warranty for that. While I think $stonecold's method is legit, I am not sure, for warranty purposes, if I would want to do it on a brand new bike.
Wait for 2019's in August or September. The only thing I have heard that makes sense is the 114 motor being standard in the touring bikes. A complete frame and suspension re-design would be pretty killer too. Both are OBVIOUSLY rumor at this point. IF nothing materializes in 2019, I could still find a 2018 bike and probably make a better deal on it with the 2019's coming out. Obviously the sumping and transfer issues could still be an issue in 2019 and I would PROBABLY take the same tact as I would on a 2018.
I believe I can find just about any color I want in any of the years so thats not a huge concern. Obviously a 2017 is going to be cheaper, BUT for my peace of mind putting an oil pump/cam plate kit in is going to cost 600-1000 dollars, which eats up some of the savings of buying a used bike. I believe my dealer would make me a decent deal on a 2018. The 2019, who knows.
Anybody got any thoughts to guide me one way or another?
I want an M8 model. I am prepared to deal with the possible "issues". Please dont let this thread devolve into yet another discussion of the issues that have been discussed AD NASEUM... I'm aware of them, I am aware of the fixes, etc...
I have an 18 Slim for running around town.
Anyway I am running through 3 trains of thought here.
Used 2017. I would do an oil pump/cam plate kit from either S&S or Feuling as well as the CVO clutch push rod or $stonecold's fix(or maybe both) to fix the two biggest issues I see with these bikes. I wouldnt feel bad about doing it on a 2017 thats almost out of warranty.
New 2018. SHOULD have the latest oil pump in it from Harley so that helps my thoughts on possible sumping. While I would still feel better with the S&S parts or Feuling parts in it, I understand the newest Harley oil pump has a massive increase in pumping volume. I would probably install the CVO clutch push rod to possibly(from the reports I am reading so far) eliminate any problem with fluid transfer as I cant see Harley voiding a warranty for that. While I think $stonecold's method is legit, I am not sure, for warranty purposes, if I would want to do it on a brand new bike.
Wait for 2019's in August or September. The only thing I have heard that makes sense is the 114 motor being standard in the touring bikes. A complete frame and suspension re-design would be pretty killer too. Both are OBVIOUSLY rumor at this point. IF nothing materializes in 2019, I could still find a 2018 bike and probably make a better deal on it with the 2019's coming out. Obviously the sumping and transfer issues could still be an issue in 2019 and I would PROBABLY take the same tact as I would on a 2018.
I believe I can find just about any color I want in any of the years so thats not a huge concern. Obviously a 2017 is going to be cheaper, BUT for my peace of mind putting an oil pump/cam plate kit in is going to cost 600-1000 dollars, which eats up some of the savings of buying a used bike. I believe my dealer would make me a decent deal on a 2018. The 2019, who knows.
Anybody got any thoughts to guide me one way or another?
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Tourer
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Im confident I could get a good deal on an 18 right now or next month. The dealer I buy from knows if they throw me a good deal I will follow through. I havent contacted them yet because I am not ready to make a move since I am still weighing my options.
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if you have something to ride I say wait.
if you don't have a scooter go buy an 18. Always somethin new every year.
I remember buying my night train new in 2005, next year they had a clock on the odometer and a 200 rear tire instead of my 150.
Just ride.
if you don't have a scooter go buy an 18. Always somethin new every year.
I remember buying my night train new in 2005, next year they had a clock on the odometer and a 200 rear tire instead of my 150.
Just ride.
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Wait for the 19 introduction. It is not very far away. At that time all the options are on the table which is used 17, nos 18 or that beautiful magnificent bigger better with the mostest 19!!!!!
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Joined: Sep 2017
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From: Dallas, TX
Well, I ended up with a Twisted Cherry 18 Ultra Limited...
I threw kind of a crazy number at my dealer and explained that I didnt want to be pissed off in 1 month when the 19s came out if they had a bigger motor or what have you and at the price I threw them, I wouldnt be pissed off. The numbers all worked out and im happy. The bike rides fantastic although I was in heavy DFW traffic yesterday almost the whole way home. I need to plan a trip to get out and stretch its legs and get it broken in.
I threw kind of a crazy number at my dealer and explained that I didnt want to be pissed off in 1 month when the 19s came out if they had a bigger motor or what have you and at the price I threw them, I wouldnt be pissed off. The numbers all worked out and im happy. The bike rides fantastic although I was in heavy DFW traffic yesterday almost the whole way home. I need to plan a trip to get out and stretch its legs and get it broken in.