Speedometer help
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From: Bedford UK
Yeah, we have weird rules here in Canada. Big lights, speedometers in kms, etc.
I am surprised someone is enforcing it. About every 20th or 30th used motorcycle I see for sale here in Canada is in MILES and not KMS.
I am not 100% certain about photos on the mother ships home pages, but I do suspect ALL pix are of US bikes. I think I saw Forty-Eights on there with a small wee tailight, but in the flesh, they are those huge fugly blocks. Can't speak to the Touring bikes....but in all likelihood, same exact web page, but they've just made the $$ amounts more for us poor saps living north of the border. I doubt they are going to redesign a whole series (100's?) of web pages for such a small (Canadian) market share.
I am surprised someone is enforcing it. About every 20th or 30th used motorcycle I see for sale here in Canada is in MILES and not KMS.
I am not 100% certain about photos on the mother ships home pages, but I do suspect ALL pix are of US bikes. I think I saw Forty-Eights on there with a small wee tailight, but in the flesh, they are those huge fugly blocks. Can't speak to the Touring bikes....but in all likelihood, same exact web page, but they've just made the $$ amounts more for us poor saps living north of the border. I doubt they are going to redesign a whole series (100's?) of web pages for such a small (Canadian) market share.
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I don't understand why all vehicle brands don't fit dual mph/kph speedos! In North America it would surely be useful for anyone crossing the border in or out of the USA to be able to check speed against the local signs, just as it would here between the UK and Europe. My Buell is dual, but the kph part is tiny, so not legible while riding. Any bike breakers nearby who may just have a speedo looking for a new home?!
They like to Reuglate and if they have to explain they regulate some more.
I waited seven weeks for an International Speedo from mother Harley.
It was part of the condition of sale when I bought the bike.
If buying a speedo from the dealer they need to get the current milage from the bike and inform mother Harley.
Mother Harley sends the speedo back to the dealer with the correct kilometers applied.
In my case I was told it was supposed to be a week to ten days.
Seven weeks later they call and say come on it.
Dropped bike off and an hour later I am good to go.
Couple weeks later I have extended warranty claim and thye service Manager can not figure out why there is a discrepancy with the kilometers.
Took SM a few minutes to figure out I was riding the bike for the seven weeks and therefore a difference of some kilometers.
I would suggest the OP find a trust worthy indy shop and see what they may offer to expedite the the RIV Canada documentation and then Provincial Registry.
PIA, but it is the Government after all.
Rob
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From: Bedford UK
With more modern bikes the mileage is stored on the ECU and it may be possible to transfer that data to the speedo without involving the mothership or a dealer. Read the instructions for some of the fancy H-D alternative speedos, which come with an adapter cable for the purpose. I'm not sure when that feature was introduced on production bikes, but I can certainly do it on my 2011 Sporty.
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Yeah, we have weird rules here in Canada. Big lights, speedometers in kms, etc.
I am surprised someone is enforcing it. About every 20th or 30th used motorcycle I see for sale here in Canada is in MILES and not KMS.
I am not 100% certain about photos on the mother ships home pages, but I do suspect ALL pix are of US bikes. I think I saw Forty-Eights on there with a small wee tailight, but in the flesh, they are those huge fugly blocks. Can't speak to the Touring bikes....but in all likelihood, same exact web page, but they've just made the $$ amounts more for us poor saps living north of the border. I doubt they are going to redesign a whole series (100's?) of web pages for such a small (Canadian) market share.
to GB: You;re right. Seems easy enough. For Indian Scouts it's the button push (or 2) to change the Speedo to read miles vs. kms.....soooooo easy when crossing the border, which many of us do. (I don't own an Indian......yet......but it's one thing that's factored into my decision for a 2nd bike)
to OP: All you really need is the gauge face from a KILOMETERS bike.....nobody is going to ride it to see if it's accurate against a GPS source. I have no idea if that's an easy or impossible job. I know it's something I would certainly investigate if it was me.
I am surprised someone is enforcing it. About every 20th or 30th used motorcycle I see for sale here in Canada is in MILES and not KMS.
I am not 100% certain about photos on the mother ships home pages, but I do suspect ALL pix are of US bikes. I think I saw Forty-Eights on there with a small wee tailight, but in the flesh, they are those huge fugly blocks. Can't speak to the Touring bikes....but in all likelihood, same exact web page, but they've just made the $$ amounts more for us poor saps living north of the border. I doubt they are going to redesign a whole series (100's?) of web pages for such a small (Canadian) market share.
to GB: You;re right. Seems easy enough. For Indian Scouts it's the button push (or 2) to change the Speedo to read miles vs. kms.....soooooo easy when crossing the border, which many of us do. (I don't own an Indian......yet......but it's one thing that's factored into my decision for a 2nd bike)
to OP: All you really need is the gauge face from a KILOMETERS bike.....nobody is going to ride it to see if it's accurate against a GPS source. I have no idea if that's an easy or impossible job. I know it's something I would certainly investigate if it was me.
Not necessarily true; they show a strange mix of International and US-spec bikes' pics depending on model and even which page of a model's description you're viewing.
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From: Penticton BC Canada
Hey everyone,
I'm in Canada and I just purchased a 2010 street glide from the US. In order to get title in Canada the bike must adhere to certain regulations,one being the speedometer/odometer must be in kilometers and not miles. I would just change it but the dealer wants $450, a bit steep for such an insignificant change. Here's my question: I have a 2004 Electra glide, can I take it out and install it in the 2010 street glide just temporarily for the inspection ? Are they an exact fit ? Is it plug and play ? Would it mess up the reading on 04 speedo for when I go to put it back ?
Thanks.
PS - Other stupid regulations, must have stock exhaust ( luckily I have it ) , must have big square brake light and signals on rear fender. ( I'm going to have to jimmy something up temporarily). BS rules, everyone just changes them back.
I'm in Canada and I just purchased a 2010 street glide from the US. In order to get title in Canada the bike must adhere to certain regulations,one being the speedometer/odometer must be in kilometers and not miles. I would just change it but the dealer wants $450, a bit steep for such an insignificant change. Here's my question: I have a 2004 Electra glide, can I take it out and install it in the 2010 street glide just temporarily for the inspection ? Are they an exact fit ? Is it plug and play ? Would it mess up the reading on 04 speedo for when I go to put it back ?
Thanks.
PS - Other stupid regulations, must have stock exhaust ( luckily I have it ) , must have big square brake light and signals on rear fender. ( I'm going to have to jimmy something up temporarily). BS rules, everyone just changes them back.
Nobody is going to verify that your speedometer is working, it just has to look correct.
If you put any KPH speedometer that will fit the hole and look correct you will pass the inspection.
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Yeah, we have weird rules here in Canada. Big lights, speedometers in kms, etc.
I am surprised someone is enforcing it. About every 20th or 30th used motorcycle I see for sale here in Canada is in MILES and not KMS.
I am not 100% certain about photos on the mother ships home pages, but I do suspect ALL pix are of US bikes. I think I saw Forty-Eights on there with a small wee tailight, but in the flesh, they are those huge fugly blocks. Can't speak to the Touring bikes....but in all likelihood, same exact web page, but they've just made the $$ amounts more for us poor saps living north of the border. I doubt they are going to redesign a whole series (100's?) of web pages for such a small (Canadian) market share.
to GB: You;re right. Seems easy enough. For Indian Scouts it's the button push (or 2) to change the Speedo to read miles vs. kms.....soooooo easy when crossing the border, which many of us do. (I don't own an Indian......yet......but it's one thing that's factored into my decision for a 2nd bike)
to OP: All you really need is the gauge face from a KILOMETERS bike.....nobody is going to ride it to see if it's accurate against a GPS source. I have no idea if that's an easy or impossible job. I know it's something I would certainly investigate if it was me.
I am surprised someone is enforcing it. About every 20th or 30th used motorcycle I see for sale here in Canada is in MILES and not KMS.
I am not 100% certain about photos on the mother ships home pages, but I do suspect ALL pix are of US bikes. I think I saw Forty-Eights on there with a small wee tailight, but in the flesh, they are those huge fugly blocks. Can't speak to the Touring bikes....but in all likelihood, same exact web page, but they've just made the $$ amounts more for us poor saps living north of the border. I doubt they are going to redesign a whole series (100's?) of web pages for such a small (Canadian) market share.
to GB: You;re right. Seems easy enough. For Indian Scouts it's the button push (or 2) to change the Speedo to read miles vs. kms.....soooooo easy when crossing the border, which many of us do. (I don't own an Indian......yet......but it's one thing that's factored into my decision for a 2nd bike)
to OP: All you really need is the gauge face from a KILOMETERS bike.....nobody is going to ride it to see if it's accurate against a GPS source. I have no idea if that's an easy or impossible job. I know it's something I would certainly investigate if it was me.
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Hope you're right. Do you think the same is for the taillight ? I'd like to temporarily put one there without wiring or screwing in.
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Swapping the speedo fro the 2010 and 2004 is easy my question before I do it is will the harness plug right in ? If not you're right I'll swap them anyway and tell him it doesn't work. It working is part of the safety not the RIV inspection. Anyone know if the 2004 and 2010 are the same harness? If not I'll find out soon enough