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Mad Mikey: Do you know what the "existing stuff" engine oil is? dyno, semi synthetic blend or fully synthetic? Is it possible to ask former owner or builder what oil they used after the upgrades and how long they've been used? That's where I would start. If this information is unattainable I'd use a semi synthetic blend such as Bel-Ray or Spectro. I've never heard of an engine failure traced back to the oil used, yet.
I'm a newbie here with a '06 Electraglide ultra. Also an FAA aircraft/engine wrench. No offense to all the replies on this subject, but why isn't anyone addressing the API designations that I see in my owners manual? Harley says to use diesel recommended oils with API designations such as CF4. I know that MANY of the synthetics as well as the mineral oils are NOT CF4 designated. So, long story short: Do we ignore all this BS or put whatever oil we want into these engines?
I'm a newbie here with a '06 Electraglide ultra. Also an FAA aircraft/engine wrench. No offense to all the replies on this subject, but why isn't anyone addressing the API designations that I see in my owners manual? Harley says to use diesel recommended oils with API designations such as CF4. I know that MANY of the synthetics as well as the mineral oils are NOT CF4 designated. So, long story short: Do we ignore all this BS or put whatever oil we want into these engines?
That part of the manual is stating what to use in a bind on the road and need to add some oil whenyou can't find a dealership to buy HD oils. They want you to buy their oil but you can put whatever you want in it. Any good 20W50 will work in the engine. Some make Vtwin specific oil like Redline, Amsoil, Mobil 1 just to name a few. Biggest concern is the primary. If the oil is not wet clutch friendly you'll have problems. Any oil that says it's formulated for V-Twins will work just fine.
This is why all the old timers here complain about the constant oil threads. Asking what brand of motor oil to use is like asking what kind of beer to drink. They may taste a little different, but they will all get you drunk. Use the search here on oil and you will have reading material for days.
Mad Mikey: Do you know what the "existing stuff" engine oil is? dyno, semi synthetic blend or fully synthetic? Is it possible to ask former owner or builder what oil they used after the upgrades and how long they've been used? That's where I would start. If this information is unattainable I'd use a semi synthetic blend such as Bel-Ray or Spectro. I've never heard of an engine failure traced back to the oil used, yet.
I bought the bike from a dealership. I know they changed the oil before I rode it off, but they use they standard discounted 55 gallon drum oil. So it's nothing fancy. After doing some research I am the 4th owner of this particular bike. The history shows that it has mainly stayed here in Florida. So alot of hot temperatures. It also has the Full Screaming Eagle package. Every upgrade that can be done has been done to the Engine and Transmission. (Honestly, one of the reasons I was attracted to this bike) I started having misfiring issues about 2 weeks ago and decided to change out the plugs. Discovered that it had the cheapo Autolites in there. Not a great plug for a built up engine. Changed them to some NGK IX's and it made a huge difference. So based off of what I have seen, I am assuming that previous owners really didn't know what they were doing and probably didn't take real good care of it. Probably went with the cheapest they could get away with.
Last edited by Mad Mikey; Dec 31, 2018 at 08:48 AM.
I see a problem in the future. If dino oil has been used for 70K miles, I'd be afraid the syn. would wash away any varnish or deposits and then some gaskets would start weeping/leaking.
Yes, my thoughts exactly but if he doesn't know what oil was used previously and wants to use synthetic where dino was used leaks may surface. If it was mine with alot of miles, I'd probably try a good dino and change it every 2500miles.
Yea. I understand the frustration. And I was leary about posting this. However, after reviewing alot of the old "Oil" posts, I really didn't get my questions answered. And even though it is a recurring question, it's still better to ask if you can't find the answers you are looking for. Alot of people posted good info and I thank you all for that. It answered some of my questions and gave me something to think about. I've been a mechanic for a long time and I know the differences between oils. But as this is my first Harley I feel it's better to get advice from those who have the experience. The more information you have, the more informed your decision. That's how I feel about it anyway.
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