S.E. Street tuner question
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S.E. Street tuner question
Do you have the s.e. Street tuner and have non harley parts on the bike, aftermarket exhaust and intake. Did you just download the can tune? How does your bike run?
Cruiser
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I would not recommend the Harley tuner. I would recommend an aftermarket tuner such as TTS or FP3 etc. the Harley tuner has very few adjustment when you dyno the bike. The aftermarket tuners can be tuned more precisely and has more adjustments for tuning with aftermarket exhaust, cams, air cleaners, etc. Don't waste your money on the Harley tuner. Ask me how I know?.....Good luck with your decision.
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I would not recommend the Harley tuner. I would recommend an aftermarket tuner such as TTS or FP3 etc. the Harley tuner has very few adjustment when you dyno the bike. The aftermarket tuners can be tuned more precisely and has more adjustments for tuning with aftermarket exhaust, cams, air cleaners, etc. Don't waste your money on the Harley tuner. Ask me how I know?.....Good luck with your decision.
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What difference does the tuner make on warranty of you are using aftermarket cams, exhaust, and air cleaners? Those items have already voided your warranty.
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That is true. I guess I should be a little more specific, no cams are in the picture, forget about that. I purchased my bike new and the dealer had already put aftermarket slipons on the bike, I questioned them about tuning and warranty related issues with the slipons. They said no tuning is necessary with just the slipons, so no warranty problems with that. I then asked about adding a intake breather to bump it up to a stage 1 and tune using a FP3 or other aftermarket device to tune the bike. There response was if any other tuner is used other than screamin eagle a related warranty issue could be questioned, possibly denied. So the dealer is ok with aftermarket parts even tuners if you don't tune the bike outside of the EPA regulations. Hope this helps to understand my question better
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It does, thanks.
I may be wrong but it is my understanding that the new intakes flow plenty of air. I'd suggest researching that and if so, just leave it alone unless you are wanting to change for cosmetic reasons. You can also ask your service writer if they still offer a stage 1 download. If your goal is to stay EPA compliant to maintain your warranty, I wouldn't spend the money on the tuner. If it's still going to be EPA compliant, you will be disappointed in the performance gains for the money you spent on the tuner and tune as there will probably be little noticeable improvement.
My suggestion, for what its worth, If you want to keep the warranty, leave it as is for about 10,000 miles to get the engine broken in nicely and give time for any warranty issues to appear. Then get a nice intake, gut the cat out of the head pipe, put some cams in it, good tuner and a dyno tune by someone that knows what they are doing and forget the rest of the warranty. If it made it 10,000 miles, it will make it 100,000. You will really notice a performance improvement then.
Good luck!
I may be wrong but it is my understanding that the new intakes flow plenty of air. I'd suggest researching that and if so, just leave it alone unless you are wanting to change for cosmetic reasons. You can also ask your service writer if they still offer a stage 1 download. If your goal is to stay EPA compliant to maintain your warranty, I wouldn't spend the money on the tuner. If it's still going to be EPA compliant, you will be disappointed in the performance gains for the money you spent on the tuner and tune as there will probably be little noticeable improvement.
My suggestion, for what its worth, If you want to keep the warranty, leave it as is for about 10,000 miles to get the engine broken in nicely and give time for any warranty issues to appear. Then get a nice intake, gut the cat out of the head pipe, put some cams in it, good tuner and a dyno tune by someone that knows what they are doing and forget the rest of the warranty. If it made it 10,000 miles, it will make it 100,000. You will really notice a performance improvement then.
Good luck!
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It does, thanks.
I may be wrong but it is my understanding that the new intakes flow plenty of air. I'd suggest researching that and if so, just leave it alone unless you are wanting to change for cosmetic reasons. You can also ask your service writer if they still offer a stage 1 download. If your goal is to stay EPA compliant to maintain your warranty, I wouldn't spend the money on the tuner. If it's still going to be EPA compliant, you will be disappointed in the performance gains for the money you spent on the tuner and tune as there will probably be little noticeable improvement.
My suggestion, for what its worth, If you want to keep the warranty, leave it as is for about 10,000 miles to get the engine broken in nicely and give time for any warranty issues to appear. Then get a nice intake, gut the cat out of the head pipe, put some cams in it, good tuner and a dyno tune by someone that knows what they are doing and forget the rest of the warranty. If it made it 10,000 miles, it will make it 100,000. You will really notice a performance improvement then.
Good luck!
I may be wrong but it is my understanding that the new intakes flow plenty of air. I'd suggest researching that and if so, just leave it alone unless you are wanting to change for cosmetic reasons. You can also ask your service writer if they still offer a stage 1 download. If your goal is to stay EPA compliant to maintain your warranty, I wouldn't spend the money on the tuner. If it's still going to be EPA compliant, you will be disappointed in the performance gains for the money you spent on the tuner and tune as there will probably be little noticeable improvement.
My suggestion, for what its worth, If you want to keep the warranty, leave it as is for about 10,000 miles to get the engine broken in nicely and give time for any warranty issues to appear. Then get a nice intake, gut the cat out of the head pipe, put some cams in it, good tuner and a dyno tune by someone that knows what they are doing and forget the rest of the warranty. If it made it 10,000 miles, it will make it 100,000. You will really notice a performance improvement then.
Good luck!
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That is true. I guess I should be a little more specific, no cams are in the picture, forget about that. I purchased my bike new and the dealer had already put aftermarket slipons on the bike, I questioned them about tuning and warranty related issues with the slipons. They said no tuning is necessary with just the slipons, so no warranty problems with that. I then asked about adding a intake breather to bump it up to a stage 1 and tune using a FP3 or other aftermarket device to tune the bike. There response was if any other tuner is used other than screamin eagle a related warranty issue could be questioned, possibly denied. So the dealer is ok with aftermarket parts even tuners if you don't tune the bike outside of the EPA regulations. Hope this helps to understand my question better
The late twinkie onwards came with intakes that are adequate for stage 1 with a slipon change. You can always change to an intake that allows more than the engine can use, but that is not an improvement other than it may look better. The dealer should know that changing the pipe will allow more flow and should already have done a tweak to the tuning with a canned map at the least, Street tuner more likely. So it matters knowing why a dealer would change slipon on a new unsold bike without doing any other work, seems like a waste of time and money on their part.
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I have the S.E. turner for my 2017 RGU with Stage II all Harley Parts. I only wient with the SE tuner to keep my warranty. Don't waste you money as they don't tune as much as they keep your bike from running too lean so it doesn't go south. Now that my warranty is about up I'm going to get an extra license for my Power Vision from Fuelmoto which will come with their tune. I can't say enough about Fuelmoto and their customer service.
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you purchased what bike new? Why did the dealer add slipons? It matters
The late twinkie onwards came with intakes that are adequate for stage 1 with a slipon change. You can always change to an intake that allows more than the engine can use, but that is not an improvement other than it may look better. The dealer should know that changing the pipe will allow more flow and should already have done a tweak to the tuning with a canned map at the least, Street tuner more likely. So it matters knowing why a dealer would change slipon on a new unsold bike without doing any other work, seems like a waste of time and money on their part.
The late twinkie onwards came with intakes that are adequate for stage 1 with a slipon change. You can always change to an intake that allows more than the engine can use, but that is not an improvement other than it may look better. The dealer should know that changing the pipe will allow more flow and should already have done a tweak to the tuning with a canned map at the least, Street tuner more likely. So it matters knowing why a dealer would change slipon on a new unsold bike without doing any other work, seems like a waste of time and money on their part.