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Old Apr 25, 2019 | 10:50 AM
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I was talking to some guys who run an old school chopper shop, and in the course of the conversation cam chain tensioners were mentioned. When they heard I’ve got over 50K miles on my bike and to my knowledge had never even had them inspected, they became quite excited. Lol

So! I decided to take a look. Good thing I did. I’ll post pictures showing what I found, but needless to say, they need changed. I’m asking if anyone has a full parts list for the job?
gaskets, o rings, everything.
Ive then the rocker covers off and pulled the push rods.
Any and all help is appriciated.

Outside shoe

Inside shoe. Badly worn down to the metal
 
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Old Apr 25, 2019 | 10:56 AM
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Good thing you opened it up, could have been bad.
You can search for all kinds of threads here that lists parts required for this job.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2019 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by CookUltraClassic
Hello all,
I was talking to some guys who run an old school chopper shop, and in the course of the conversation cam chain tensioners were mentioned. When they heard I’ve got over 50K miles on my bike and to my knowledge had never even had them inspected, they became quite excited. Lol

So! I decided to take a look. Good thing I did. I’ll post pictures showing what I found, but needless to say, they need changed. I’m asking if anyone has a full parts list for the job?
gaskets, o rings, everything.
Ive then the rocker covers off and pulled the push rods.
Any and all help is appriciated.

Outside shoe

Inside shoe. Badly worn down to the metal
Good find! Glad you found it before the inevitable! What year and how many miles?
 
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Old Apr 25, 2019 | 05:57 PM
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I do the retro kit to put in hydraullic. I think that is the current best practice, but I haven't been following.

I'd put new lifters in when you got it apart. Would replace inner and outer cam bearings. I had mine apart at 34k and did these things. Except I went to gears on my 01 with timken, and hydraullic kit wasn't out yet.

I'd also consider 95" and cam, though that expands the job a bit.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2019 | 06:08 PM
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Hopefully the oil filter absorbed most of the missing pieces. There is another solution which I used twice: A hydraulic cam chain tensioner with high volume oil pump. Harley and others make these. The hydraulic tensioners are easier to install and easier on the cam parts. The replacement parts are roughly $400.00 to $500.00. The high volume oil pump allows for a cooler running engine. The instrument oil light goes out in half a second when starting bike, much longer on stock volume pumps.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2019 | 06:17 PM
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The cheapest way is to replace the pads only

http://twincamtensioner.com/shop/

get the cam change gasket kit, the replacement pads, the install tool, and chain guide.

Then you will need inner and outer bearings, a bearing puller and install tool, and a shop press.

Inner bearings should be replaced with full compliment roller bearings. Used to be Timken, I think it is Koyo now.
 

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Old Apr 25, 2019 | 06:24 PM
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The inner bearing is HD Screamin Eagle. It is the 31 roller Torrington.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2019 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by CookUltraClassic
Hello all,

So! I decided to take a look. Good thing I did. I’ll post pictures showing what I found, but needless to say, they need changed. I’m asking if anyone has a full parts list for the job?
gaskets, o rings, everything.
Ive then the rocker covers off and pulled the push rods.
Any and all help is appriciated.
Can give you complete list of what is needed but need to know what you wish to do..
1. cams good?
you wish to reuse them?
This leads down one path
2. Wish to upgrade cams?
this leads down second path of options.
I only use the Screaming Eagle cam plates and pumps.

I do not recommend changing tensioners only.
 
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Originally Posted by areshaw
Hopefully the oil filter absorbed most of the missing pieces. There is another solution which I used twice: A hydraulic cam chain tensioner with high volume oil pump. Harley and others make these. The hydraulic tensioners are easier to install and easier on the cam parts. The replacement parts are roughly $400.00 to $500.00. The high volume oil pump allows for a cooler running engine. The instrument oil light goes out in half a second when starting bike, much longer on stock volume pumps.
I am not against high flow oil pumps. But when I did my builed I elected not to. So far so good.
 
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