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Old Aug 30, 2019 | 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by jcslim
I feel your pain my friend!

I essentially toasted my 2018 Road Glide Special M8 107 with Stage IV 114 Harley Upgrade kit last week. I installed the 114 kit myself, so I take full responsibility that I must’ve done something wrong on install 5,000 miles ago, but the end result is scored pistons, cylinders, lifters and worst of all the lifter ports in the case.

Since my case is damaged and a new 114 crate motor is about $6,000 I’m thinking:
  • New HD short block ($2,300)
  • New S&S 124 kit ($2,000)
  • New ThunderMax Tuner ($800) - My HD Street Tuner from the 114 Stage IV won’t work with the 124 kit
  • Re-use the 64mm throttle body from my Stage IV kit
  • Re-use the ported/polished heads from my Stage IV kit
Not exactly the same use case you have since mine is an M8 though.

If I didn’t have an M8, I would probably just go with an S&S 124 crate motor or maybe the HD 120 crate motor.

Best of luck in whatever you decide!
It sure sounds like it sumped?
 
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Old Aug 30, 2019 | 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by jammerx
It sure sounds like it sumped?
Twinkies don't sump bud.....
 
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Old Aug 31, 2019 | 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by TwiZted Biker
Twinkies don't sump bud.....
jcslim said he wasted his M8 motor in the thread, not the op, that was my question
 
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Old Aug 31, 2019 | 12:27 PM
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I believe if I were in your shoes I would talk to these guys, they would help you get the best band for the buck.
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/engin...cal-topics-46/
 
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Old Sep 3, 2019 | 04:14 PM
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for those interested in engine failure here are some pictures:

These are the rod big end thrust washers, one intact and the remains of the other.


Big end of the rod showing marks of rubbing on the fly wheels?



Wrist pin bushing on the same rod.
 
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Old Sep 3, 2019 | 06:07 PM
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Wow.... that sucks....

Have you decided how you will deal with it yet...?
 
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Old Sep 3, 2019 | 06:47 PM
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Usually when a rod starts walking hard to one side like that the crank scissored on you bad or the bore alignment in one cylinder wasn't true and had a lean to one side. Bad pin bushing fit on the small end, don't usually see one where the bushing is twisting in the bore like that, another indication how out the crank was tweaked. Sucks
 
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Engine is being rebuilt by an independent shop that has been doing a good job for a number of years. Expect to be able to break in the rebuild sometime next week. It is a rather costly business for sure. The worst of it is psychological as I had a high level of confidence in the soundness of that motorcycle now the trust is going to have to be rebuilt as well.

Shop said the crank was well within tolerances and the cylinder walls were still good, they figure the crank might have been pressed too tight and the failure of the thrust washer led to the failure of the wrist pin bushing. All going to be rebuilt, bored out one size up and new pistons.
 

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I would send my crank to Darkhorse for their improvements. That's how I proceeded when my wrist pin bushing spun.
 
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Time to buy a new one...
 
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