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Old Nov 22, 2020 | 04:52 PM
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You might try taking the starter out and lubing the shaft the gear slides on....see why it's stuck in there.......


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The assembly marked #25 is what you want to look at.........the starter clutch and the regular clutch are TWO different things.....
 

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This may sound a bit weird but what Rockout Rocker said. This past summer I had a golf car that had a bad starter.....push it back and forth a bit and the starter would engage.
Sounds like your bike is in need of a little TLC on the starter, make it happy and good luck.
 
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Originally Posted by TwoBlue02
soooooo - what parts do I need to replace?
Don't WASTE any money without some trouble shooting first. First thing: battery, how old is it, do you keep a maintainer on it? Battery connections: BOTH ends of each wire clean and tight. It is possible that with less than ideal power from the battery (for whatever reason) there is not enough power to both spin the starter and make the starter gear jump out into the clutch ring gear. I don't want to sound like a fat head, but the feeling I get from your questions is that you don't have the knowledge and experience to handle this on your own. Everyone must start somewhere, and you would be wise to get some experienced hand s on help until you get a bit more experience with machinery, or take it to a shop.
 
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^YEA..........start there!!!!~!
 
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No troubleshooting needed here, the starter clutch is shot.

 
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Originally Posted by ROCKOUT Rocker Products
Try moving the bike in gear just a bit... maybe the starter gear is just in the exact wrong spot to engage the ring gear.
The starter motor is not energized until the pinion gear is fully extended and engaged into the ring gear.

Since the starter motor is getting power, we know that this has occurred.

The engine does not crank because the starter clutch is slipping.

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You might try taking the starter out and lubing the shaft the gear slides on....see why it's stuck in there.......
As stated above, the solenoid shaft must fully extend before the contacts in the solenoid close and energize the starter, the problem is not a stuck solenoid shaft, it is a slipping starter clutch.
 

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If you are not comfortable disassembling the starter, a starter repair shop can do the job for you, this is a very common automotive starter, the shop will be very familiar with it. Just have them rebuild the starter, and make sure to tell them the starter clutch must be replaced.

All ***** starter clutch

Here is a good video from youtube on replacing the starter clutch.

 
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Originally Posted by Dan89FLSTC
The starter motor is not energized until the pinion gear is fully extended and engaged into the ring gear.

Since the starter motor is getting power, we know that this has occurred.

The engine does not crank because the starter clutch is slipping.



As stated above, the solenoid shaft must fully extend before the contacts in the solenoid close and energize the starter, the problem is not a stuck solenoid shaft, it is a slipping starter clutch.
No argument with any of that in THEORY. The symptom as described suggests the starter gear spinning against the ring gear. A slipping starter clutch sounds like the primary is grinding itself to bits. Whether in a car or a Harley, there have been instances of the starter spinning when the bendix is not fully extended. Don't know how that can happen, but it does.
 
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Originally Posted by TwoBlue02
Sorry for dumb question - is a starter and starter clutch the same thing on a bike? How complex to replace? HD part or aftermarket?
Originally Posted by TwoBlue02
soooooo - what parts do I need to replace?

I don't mean this to be harsh, but I know nothing of your mechanical abilities...

Based on these two questions, you may want to take it to a shop to have it fixed....

In any case, you received some good info here.... good luck with the repair....
 
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