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Big supporter of the training that Jerry and Robert and others do out there. I have been riding since 06, a dyna, then a sgs in 17 now a RGL. 950 some pounds and I'm 5'7". Sorry, I thought I knew how to ride, I didn't know jack $%#^ about riding. ...
I hear ya on that. I had been riding well over 20 years before i took my first advanced rider training class and found out there was more I didn't know than I did know. (and still is.) A real eye-opener for sure. Been a keen taker of classes, reader of books and watcher of videos on the topic ever since. Seems to be more new techniques and tips coming up all the time. Always something new to try out.
What I found interesting was when I watched one of the videos from Joe's (I think that's his name - the guy who bought 2 new Revivals?) class, he was commenting on...he was saying "See, no need to ride the clutch, preload....don't do that guys..." which contradicts to what Robert is teaching.
I preload all the time. It saved my *** from dropping more than enough times. It feels damn sweet making that tight Uturn...First time I did it in "live" environment, I rode with a smile on my face like I won a race lol...it went from "I think I can! I think I can!"...turn the head, pre-load, rear brake, turn and go! All that time I was thinking in my head "You will not fall, you got it covered with the rear brake" Next thing I knew.. BOOM! I was going the other way. I felt like a kid who just got his training wheels removed.
What I found interesting was when I watched one of the videos from Joe's (I think that's his name - the guy who bought 2 new Revivals?) class, he was commenting on...he was saying "See, no need to ride the clutch, preload....don't do that guys..." which contradicts to what Robert is teaching.
I preload all the time. It saved my *** from dropping more than enough times. It feels damn sweet making that tight Uturn...First time I did it in "live" environment, I rode with a smile on my face like I won a race lol...it went from "I think I can! I think I can!"...turn the head, pre-load, rear brake, turn and go! All that time I was thinking in my head "You will not fall, you got it covered with the rear brake" Next thing I knew.. BOOM! I was going the other way. I felt like a kid who just got his training wheels removed.
Good job! I had actually commented on another forum the other day on something I think everybody should do as well. I've never practiced until I got this bike, how to pick it up, properly. Tons of video's online. I can now do it myself with proper technique. The reason I thought this was important is last fall, I slipped on some gas/oil at the gas station as my gf was getting on the bike, we fell over. Embarrassed, we both couldn't pick it up, she was pulling on the seat (stupid), I was leaning over (stupid) and another guy came over so we got it upright. Terrible technique could damage the bike, and hurt yourself. I've now put down some carpet in the driveway and practiced it, because if it's just me or maybe me and my girl out in the back 40's somewhere I can't wait for a 3rd or 4th person to show up. Of course with the slow speed cone training work, I've practiced it about 15 times now on different outings. Haven't had to do it in a while but feel confident I could now if need be.
Good job! I had actually commented on another forum the other day on something I think everybody should do as well. I've never practiced until I got this bike, how to pick it up, properly. Tons of video's online. I can now do it myself with proper technique. .
My first Harley, 2021 Ultra Limited, I have been riding sport bikes for 20+ years. Sadly this bike has gently touched the ground in my rut filled driveway, once the jiffy stand retracted unbeknownst to me and a quick stop, bars turned. Zero damage (tiny abrasions on guards, emory cloth, HD paint stick, guard covers (after the first drop)!!!
Learned on this video. No strap needed, guards make it easy. Strength was no issue just learning positioning. Hoping I don't get anymore practice lol.
Good for you for training. It IS important to learn these slow speed show-off skills. The better you get, the more confident you get, the safer you get. And it absolutely translates to riding on the street.
Drives me crazy to read guys talking about how its too expensive to replace your boards (I have 3 new sets in my garage, they are not expensive as take-offs), or your engine guards (easy enough to protect them).
If they cant do it, and dont care to learn how to do it, why do they feel the need to tell you its silly?
Not sure where youre located but if youre ever near Omaha Ill set up some cones and well have some fun.
Almost forgot if you really need feelers for your boards, find some take-offs from a Limited Low. They have them built in.
And feel free to check out the video section here, I occasionally post training videos.
What video section "here" are you talking about? I'd like to see those videos of yours. I'm always interested in learning new methods, or just hearing and seeing how methods are taught.
What video section "here" are you talking about? I'd like to see those videos of yours. I'm always interested in learning new methods, or just hearing and seeing how methods are taught.
The Harley Davidson Videos section here on HDForums. (I dont really offer instruction in mine though)
The videos with the figure eights and circles are excellent learning tools. Anybody can put it in gear and drive straight, but at slow speeds you will see who can ride and who can't. I have been riding for a lot of years and I still practice, particularly in the spring. I will go to a large store parking lot in the early evening after they have closed and I will spend 20 minutes to an hour just practicing. Nothing over 15km per hour, circles, bopping around between the lines, picking a point somewhere off on the side a little and turning to put the front wheel on the spot. There are a few people who join me from time to time now, just for the fun. Sometimes on a weekend ride we will stop for a half an hour and just practice before going home. The benefits are evident quite quickly...
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