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Old Jul 14, 2022 | 10:14 AM
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Just a big FWIW.....

The Hiflo Filtro filters are a very high quality filter... I get them for about $11 each on Amazon.. There is at least one well respected performance shop that I am aware of, that uses them as their shop preferred oil filter...

Hiflo Filtro is probably the largest PowerSports filter manufacturer in the world.

Their filters are TÜV approved, which means they meet the standards of the German Equipment and Product Safety Act. Supposedly, Hiflo Filtro are the only ones making TÜV approved filters.

I suspect the Hiflo Filtro oil filters are made to a higher quality specification than those spec'd by Harley to their oil filter manufacturer.... just call it a hunch.. In the past, HD has proven that some of their part's quality could be labelled "just good enough to get it through the warranty period"..

Am I saying that HD filters aren't capable of properly filtering HD engines... of course not... but if for the same money you could get a better filter, why not..?
 
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Old Jul 14, 2022 | 10:22 AM
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Why would you go with an after market oil filter?
 
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Old Jul 14, 2022 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by hkb
Why would you go with an after market oil filter?
I think hattitude covered it pretty well, I personally go with the K&N because they are carried by my local Autozone, they are a quality filter, and the 17mm nut on the end makes them pretty much fool proof
 
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Old Jul 14, 2022 | 02:19 PM
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Why would you go with an after market oil filter?

Because...

There are some that are just as good, if not better, and the same price and/or cheaper than OEM.....

That's above and beyond any convenience factors, like local vendors and/or online sales..

IMHO....

If you've been riding Harleys as long as I have (since mid 70s), especially in the last 10 years, it has become obvious that the decisions made by the MoCo are strictly made for shareholder profit.... That rarely leads to the "best" part being made, and it more often leads to a "just good enough part"....

That's just the nature of a publicly traded company in today's world...

Love him or hate him, when Willie G. Davidson retired (2012), and there was no one left at MoCo corporate who's name was on the marquee, the mentality of the MoCo switched. Then President and Chief Executive Officer since 2009, Keith Wandell, was the first outsider to ever run the company... The corporate mentality took over BIG time with the exit of Willie G ...

 
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Old Jul 14, 2022 | 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by hkb
Why would you go with an after market oil filter?
I have no issues with OE. There was an availability issue for a while, and I have always had great luck with WIX over my career, and in many vehicles so I was buying them by the case when they were cheap.

I now have to use the shorter filter because of my DynaTrack, and the K&N, S&S, Wix, and Amsoil are the filters that I use. I just don't let them go beyond 3500-4000. Usually just do the change at 3K
 
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Old Jul 14, 2022 | 10:18 PM
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Take a look at perform filters, per-form.com
 
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Old Jul 14, 2022 | 11:34 PM
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I use the OEM, they are reasonably priced, when I had my BMW the OEM was 23 bucks in 2014, the Motorcraft FL910S I use for my Ford Fusion had the same specs for 4 bucks, ran them on the BMW.
I also always prime my oil filters when changing so the pressure comes up faster.
 

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Old Jul 15, 2022 | 09:39 AM
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interesting reading....

https://www.autocarneed.com/who-make...on-oil-filter/
 
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it's said that Champion also makes K&N's oil filters...
 
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Old Jul 15, 2022 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by jake24lt

The date on that article is 2022, however, I think it may have some old info...

I'm still looking for the article, and the K&N tech bulletin issued I think around 2016.... I thought I saved them, but can't seem to find them...

It was about 6-8 years ago, K&N changed the manufacturer of their oil filters that used to be made by Hiflo Filtro.

It was noticed on another forum I read, in a 2018 thread, that the K&N oil filter quality seemed to have gotten worse. It was brought up that K&N changed vendors for their Harley oil filters. In the thread, a guy posted a response from K&N explaining their filters will differ ,"based on the vendor used". The thread showed a Hiflo Filtro K&N and a newer version of the K&N.. The newer version had an "A" stamped on it, red filter element, and 6 holes v the Hiflo Filtro K&N with 8 holes.

That's when I switched to Hiflo Filtro from using K&N. I got spoiled by the 17mm nut on the end... I actually had a new & old K&N filter in my parts cabinet... I didn't take a pic of the two showing the difference... but this pic is from the other forum thread, showing the change in K&N Harley oil filters..

The Hiflo Filtro K&N is on the left and the newer (2017/2018 era) K&N is on the right... the one on the left looks the exact same as the Hiflo Filtro oil filters I now use.



Sorry for the 2nd/3rd hand info that I can't back up.... I'm hoping someone else knows of the article/history about K&N filters I am referencing...

Note: I haven't bought a K&N filter in 4 or 5 years, so if the current K&Ns look like the one on the left, they may have gone back to Hiflo Filtro oil filters...
 

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