03 Roadking trans dosnt engage
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Slow down on your replies. Punctuation and more words to clarify. That way we can better understand what youre trying to say.
Im not following you on what youre saying. It almost sounds like youre saying spinning the rear tire with the transmission in gear spins the engine. But running the engine with the transmission in gear will not spin the rear tire.
Im not following you on what youre saying. It almost sounds like youre saying spinning the rear tire with the transmission in gear spins the engine. But running the engine with the transmission in gear will not spin the rear tire.
Sounds like when the tire is in the air free spinning, the engine moves the tire, but when the tire is on the ground the bike doesn't pull along. If that's the case, I would suspect final drive front pulley spline failure.
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So with the biking In gear, and the rear wheel in the air, the tire is engaged like its normal in gear. but when engin running nothing. again, the clutch cable won't adjust to any amount of tension. it leaves like 1/4 inch of slack in it no matter how tight I make it or how much I adjust it
What gear is the bike in when testing for clutch operation with motor running, higher gear or 1st?
With plugs out, insert a long straw or skewer stick into each cylinder and observe their motion when the back tire is spun in gear.
Observe the primary drive side as well. All should be in motion when you spin the wheel. All this to get an initial idea of the drive itself with exception of internals of the transmission.
Have you tried to release the clutch with engine running in any higher gear?
Been 24hrs since your last post, so hopefully youve discovered the trouble.
Good point by Ultra103.
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Tourer
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From: New York
CLUTCH IS NEW COUPLE HUNDRED MILES NO SIGNS OF FAILURE that said
So I covered all the basics derby cover / clutch adjustment with the side trans cover off and I noticed that no matter what I did I couldnt get clutch cable to adjust correctly always a 1/4 in of slack . No frayed cable wires either !
Belt is as it should be!
When bike is jacked up rear tire off the ground nd in gear it feels as it should but with engine running bike on ground in gear it feels like barely going to engage then nothing no matter which gear!
Im going to give the scenario one more time and hope people can stop parroting the same obvious basics which I apologize for my lack of perfect punctuation nd or grammar I do appreciate all constructive input but Im typing this on a broken iPhone so cut me some slack and try to bare with me here -
from the top how this happened I was coming to a stop and I down shifted from 3rd gear to second gear into first gear I let off the clutch expecting the motor braking to kick nd rpm rip and I must be moving a little too fast for 1st gear rear tire chirp then the clutch cable went limp and then the transmission would not engage
So I covered all the basics derby cover / clutch adjustment with the side trans cover off and I noticed that no matter what I did I couldnt get clutch cable to adjust correctly always a 1/4 in of slack . No frayed cable wires either !
Belt is as it should be!
When bike is jacked up rear tire off the ground nd in gear it feels as it should but with engine running bike on ground in gear it feels like barely going to engage then nothing no matter which gear!
Im going to give the scenario one more time and hope people can stop parroting the same obvious basics which I apologize for my lack of perfect punctuation nd or grammar I do appreciate all constructive input but Im typing this on a broken iPhone so cut me some slack and try to bare with me here -
from the top how this happened I was coming to a stop and I down shifted from 3rd gear to second gear into first gear I let off the clutch expecting the motor braking to kick nd rpm rip and I must be moving a little too fast for 1st gear rear tire chirp then the clutch cable went limp and then the transmission would not engage
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From: New York
With some punctuation added, Im hearing what foxtrapper hears.
What gear is the bike in when testing for clutch operation with motor running, higher gear or 1st?
With plugs out, insert a long straw or skewer stick into each cylinder and observe their motion when the back tire is spun in gear.
Observe the primary drive side as well. All should be in motion when you spin the wheel. All this to get an initial idea of the drive itself with exception of internals of the transmission.
Have you tried to release the clutch with engine running in any higher gear?
Been 24hrs since your last post, so hopefully youve discovered the trouble.
Good point by Ultra103.
What gear is the bike in when testing for clutch operation with motor running, higher gear or 1st?
With plugs out, insert a long straw or skewer stick into each cylinder and observe their motion when the back tire is spun in gear.
Observe the primary drive side as well. All should be in motion when you spin the wheel. All this to get an initial idea of the drive itself with exception of internals of the transmission.
Have you tried to release the clutch with engine running in any higher gear?
Been 24hrs since your last post, so hopefully youve discovered the trouble.
Good point by Ultra103.
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Tourer
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From: New York
So with the biking In gear and the rear wheel in the air the tire is engaged like its normal in gear but when engin running nothing again the clutch cable won't adjust to any amount of tension it leaves like 1/4 inch of slack in it no matter how tight I make it or how much I adjust it
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From: North Dakota
Ok, it sounds like what you are saying is that with the rear tire in the air the clutch will engage and turn the tire but when you put it on the ground there is not enough engagement to move the bike, right?
The fact you are saying that the clutch wont adjust properly I still think you need to look at the clutch basket. Im no mechanic but it sounds like for whatever reason the clutch discs are not getting enough pressure applied.
The fact you are saying that the clutch wont adjust properly I still think you need to look at the clutch basket. Im no mechanic but it sounds like for whatever reason the clutch discs are not getting enough pressure applied.
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been Super busy havent had a chance to work on bike the 1 thing that I noticed is with the trans side cover removed the gear that engages the ramps for the clutch cable spins freely nd no matter where the clutch adjustment is I cant get it to the point where its right / has tension on it .what would cause the clutch cable to go slack if the cables not visibly damaged nd will not adjust to proper specs ?
look at the picture in this parts link. Notice how the one plate will rotate over the other, with the three ***** causing the plates to move apart, separating the clutch plates in the primary.
https://partsfinder.onlinemicrofiche...idsonmc&a=442#
This can/ does sorta match your initial symptoms. A ping when the ***** come flying out. A floppy lever. The clutch will not disengage. No cable adjustment will fix it.
Last edited by foxtrapper; Sep 3, 2022 at 07:01 PM.
