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Old Oct 31, 2022 | 11:25 AM
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While this is not related to touring, I'd like to find a small LI battery charger that can fit into my pocket.. Probably doesn't have to be more than 1ah.

The reason for this is I bought a Noco LI battery with a battery management system that will shut down the battery if the load it too high. The problem is that it won't recover unless connected to a charger according to their tech support.. It does seem to recover if I simply disconnect it but it would be nice to simply plug a portable pocket sized charger onto the charger port to bring it back to life. I've seen battery boosters but they are typically pretty big.. This is on a bike without saddlebags with big motor and 2kw starter. It's a PITA have the starter stall, kickback to shut down the battery when getting gas..

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Old Oct 31, 2022 | 11:36 AM
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Not a battery charger but another battery.

LiFePO4 18650 Battery: 12.8V 1500 mAh (Flat, 19.2Wh, 4A rate) with PCB (batteryspace.com)

4 cell pack already made up.
 
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Old Oct 31, 2022 | 11:44 AM
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Thanks,
I was thinking that I'd end up resorting to something like that.. Still looking for maybe something a little more complete..
 
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Old Nov 1, 2022 | 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Max Headflow
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I was thinking that I'd end up resorting to something like that.. Still looking for maybe something a little more complete..
check these guys,,, this is a page of their chargers. https://www.18650batterystore.com/co...attery-charger
 
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Old Nov 1, 2022 | 10:06 AM
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check these guys,,, this is a page of their chargers. https://www.18650batterystore.com/co...attery-charger
Thanks for the reply but what I looking for is a battery charger for a MC battery that has it's own power source. The only thing I see here is a LI battery single cell charger for 18650 and like batteries.
 
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Thanks for the reply but what I looking for is a battery charger for a MC battery that has it's own power source. The only thing I see here is a LI battery single cell charger for 18650 and like batteries.
yeah this li battery switch over has me buggered. The best I've been able to come up with is a rig for the new Yuasa AMG. I' had my H/D tender for 20 years, still works great. It's bolted to the battery, with the pig tail connector exiting over the starter area by 5" appx. use a car vacume line cap/ plug to prevent a short out while riding. I made up a rig that attaches to that connector and has about 10' cord that has clamps so I can beg a jump start from a cage rider or I can attach those clamps directly to the battery charger for a quick charge up if necessary then un plug charger and re attach tender to keep it hot. May sound like a cluster- f__ck but takes me all of 1 min. Or less to swich out to what ever I need to do.
I don't know how much power you need to reset you battery? To me it sounded like a sm. charge would reset the NOCO? I thought a Li charger with multiable batterys could be wired in to the system to stay charged then like mine pigtail plugged in to the battery when needed. Now you see why I'm staying with the AMG for now. Good luck with that. Let us know what you come up with
 
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Old Nov 1, 2022 | 11:55 AM
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yeah this li battery switch over has me buggered. The best I've been able to come up with is a rig for the new Yuasa AMG. I' had my H/D tender for 20 years, still works great. It's bolted to the battery, with the pig tail connector exiting over the starter area by 5" appx. use a car vacume line cap/ plug to prevent a short out while riding. I made up a rig that attaches to that connector and has about 10' cord that has clamps so I can beg a jump start from a cage rider or I can attach those clamps directly to the battery charger for a quick charge up if necessary then un plug charger and re attach tender to keep it hot. May sound like a cluster- f__ck but takes me all of 1 min. Or less to swich out to what ever I need to do.
I don't know how much power you need to reset you battery? To me it sounded like a sm. charge would reset the NOCO? I thought a Li charger with multiable batterys could be wired in to the system to stay charged then like mine pigtail plugged in to the battery when needed. Now you see why I'm staying with the AMG for now. Good luck with that. Let us know what you come up with
I really don't have much area to store a spare battery pack on the bike easily. One solution would be to use something like this.

https://www.batterytender.com/Batter...ar-Controller?

Then use a stack of batteries instead of a solar panel. Maybe 2 of those 13v battery packs. I use this same unit to keep a starting battery charged with a small solar panel for a genset . I was thinking that there might be a pocket sized solution that might even help for other batteries in other bikes.

I really don't know what is required to revive the Noco except that after battery shut down, I simply disconnected it, the battery recovered on it's own. Hooked it back up and the bike started. My discussion with Noco customer support seems to imply that I need to disconnect the battery and place on a charger. It was hoping for a little more info. I've only had one event so I guess I have to have another and try to be ready for it in some manner. Last one I had to Lyft home, pick up the truck / trailer and drag the bike home.
 
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Old Nov 1, 2022 | 12:25 PM
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I really don't have much area to store a spare battery pack on the bike easily. One solution would be to use something like this.

https://www.batterytender.com/Batter...ar-Controller?

Then use a stack of batteries instead of a solar panel. Maybe 2 of those 13v battery packs. I use this same unit to keep a starting battery charged with a small solar panel for a genset . I was thinking that there might be a pocket sized solution that might even help for other batteries in other bikes.

I really don't know what is required to revive the Noco except that after battery shut down, I simply disconnected it, the battery recovered on it's own. Hooked it back up and the bike started. My discussion with Noco customer support seems to imply that I need to disconnect the battery and place on a charger. It was hoping for a little more info. I've only had one event so I guess I have to have another and try to be ready for it in some manner. Last one I had to Lyft home, pick up the truck / trailer and drag the bike home.
Dang,, got to wonder if there's a way to add an in line disconnect like heavy switch or breaker for the disconnect,, then have that battery pack to liven it back up. I don't guess one can do a quick jump from a car or other bike with a regular AMG, etc battery. If Elon Musk wasn't busy mucking up our freedom of speach maybe he could design a "rounder wheel" short of that, sounds like a chore you have there my friend.
 
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So you're wanting something smaller than Noco's GB20 jump pack? They also sell jump leads that you can leave on the bike like a tender cord #GBC007
 
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Old Nov 1, 2022 | 02:23 PM
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So you're wanting something smaller than Noco's GB20 jump pack? They also sell jump leads that you can leave on the bike like a tender cord #GBC007
Yeah, I've been looking at boosters.
That one is a little big.. about 7x3x1.7 It probably only puts out 13.3-4 volts. Would need a big pocket. It doesn't have a charge function for the vehicle battery. It's possible that I could use something like that to start the bike then the let the alternator supply more voltage.

I suspect that if this one would work by supplying enough voltage then the above listed battery pack would be sufficient. The bike does not have any ghost loads, everything goes through the ignition switch. There does seem to be just enough leakage to not allow the Noco Batteries' BMS to reset..

I'm definitely leaning towards Andy's idea of the smaller pack, I could carry a cheater cable that allows me to plug into another bikes charging connector. It's not going to take hardly any current.

 
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