Please school me on Roadglides
Cruiser
Joined: Sep 2018
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From: SoCal
What oil issue is that? The sumping if that what you are talking about was rare and happened in 5% of the bikes. I have a 2018 W/ 107 and love that motor much more than my 103. Harley did come out with a new oil pump in 2020 that was their answer to the sumping. I would guess any bike that did sump has been fixed by now. OP buy the bike that is set up the way you want it.
Road Warrior
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From: Northern NJ
Twice, over the years, I have rented glides with the 103. I never rode a 114 except during demo truck events, which is not really enough to get a good feeling for the engine.
Keep in mind, normally unhappy people make the most noise. There are some problems with any of the engines, and people that have had issues make sure everyone knows. But, over all, they are all pretty solid engines and the odds are in your favor on getting a good one.
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6th Gear
Joined: May 2022
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From: North Dakota
The 103 twin cam was last available in 2016. The Milwaukee 8 (M8) is the current mill and it's available in a 107 in the standard trims, a 114 in the "specials" and a 117 in the CVO's. People selling used bikes now are trying to get the same price people were getting during Covid mania, which they won't but reality hasn't set in yet. My local dealer has discounted prices on all of their overflowing used bike inventory - first time I've seen advertised discounts in 3 years. $22K is just the starting price for a new RG standard with no options (color, ABS, etc). Add in $850 freight and $1000 surcharge to every new bike. You're realistically looking at $26,500 for a standard Road Glide and 32,500 for a RGS before tax and tags.
What's your budget?
What's your budget?
I don't really care much for farkles , noisy exhaust, or color really. As long as it doesn't catch too many eyes id like it.
I do not want ABS. I had a bmw s1000 at one point that had abs and it was alright for riding very lightly but asking it to do much of anything made the brake lever pulse like a jackhammer. I imagine Harleys abs setup cant possibly be better.
Realistically I just want a solid ride.
Cruiser
Joined: Sep 2018
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From: SoCal
I don't know why you wouldn't want ABS, I have never engaged ABS on my rides. Hell, the only time I've even engaged ABS on my work bike (in the photo) is when we do emergency stop training, and it's not even all the time.
You don't have to have ABS, but that comment makes me think you're not a very good rider, which means you should get ABS.
If you want to hoon, you can just turn it off.
You don't have to have ABS, but that comment makes me think you're not a very good rider, which means you should get ABS.
If you want to hoon, you can just turn it off.
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From: Jackson, OH
The vast majority of H-D owners who have ABS are seldom functionally aware of it in everyday riding. It's there if the situation goes to critical, but otherwise it's braking as usual. I have never heard of any known or ongoing problems with ABS acting inappropriately on H-D bikes, but of course someone will report the rare occurrence.
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The vast majority of H-D owners who have ABS are seldom functionally aware of it in everyday riding. It's there if the situation goes to critical, but otherwise it's braking as usual. I have never heard of any known or ongoing problems with ABS acting inappropriately on H-D bikes, but of course someone will report the rare occurrence.
ABS will routinely activate while braking on uneven surfaces, when not needed.. It can be felt pulsating in those situations... That doesn't really qualify for "acting inappropriately", but I do find it annoying...
The only Harley ABS problem was that if the ABS module fails, you can lose braking for that side of the module (front or back). That was unlike most ABS modules that will just default to a non-ABS mode if/when the module fails... That issue was discovered on early ABS units and led to the Safety Recall 0171, outlined in Service Bulletin M1470 (3/16/2018). The recall affected 174,636 models from 2008-2011. So that issue wasn't really "rare"...
IMHO....
I will let the zealots debate the need versus desire to have ABS on their vehicles. While I continue to consider it just a "nice to have" option.
FWIW..
In my anecdotal experience over 44 years and approximately 350,000 miles of riding, I've been in many "rapid braking" situations and only a couple, true "panic braking" situations. Defensive driving and threshold braking (a developed & practiced skill) have been enough to keep me safe so far...
I have 4 Harley motorcycles. One has ABS and the other three do not. I don't give ABS a thought while deciding which bike to ride. While I don't mind having ABS on one of my bikes, neither do I feel unsafe while riding the bikes that don't have it...
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6th Gear
Joined: May 2022
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From: North Dakota
ABS will routinely activate while braking on uneven surfaces, when not needed.. It can be felt pulsating in those situations... That doesn't really qualify for "acting inappropriately", but I do find it annoying...
The only Harley ABS problem was that if the ABS module fails, you can lose braking for that side of the module (front or back). That was unlike most ABS modules that will just default to a non-ABS mode if/when the module fails... That issue was discovered on early ABS units and led to the Safety Recall 0171, outlined in Service Bulletin M1470 (3/16/2018). The recall affected 174,636 models from 2008-2011. So that issue wasn't really "rare"...
IMHO....
I will let the zealots debate the need versus desire to have ABS on their vehicles. While I continue to consider it just a "nice to have" option.
FWIW..
In my anecdotal experience over 44 years and approximately 350,000 miles of riding, I've been in many "rapid braking" situations and only a couple, true "panic braking" situations. Defensive driving and threshold braking (a developed & practiced skill) have been enough to keep me safe so far...
I have 4 Harley motorcycles. One has ABS and the other three do not. I don't give ABS a thought while deciding which bike to ride. While I don't mind having ABS on one of my bikes, neither do I feel unsafe while riding the bikes that don't have it...
The only Harley ABS problem was that if the ABS module fails, you can lose braking for that side of the module (front or back). That was unlike most ABS modules that will just default to a non-ABS mode if/when the module fails... That issue was discovered on early ABS units and led to the Safety Recall 0171, outlined in Service Bulletin M1470 (3/16/2018). The recall affected 174,636 models from 2008-2011. So that issue wasn't really "rare"...
IMHO....
I will let the zealots debate the need versus desire to have ABS on their vehicles. While I continue to consider it just a "nice to have" option.
FWIW..
In my anecdotal experience over 44 years and approximately 350,000 miles of riding, I've been in many "rapid braking" situations and only a couple, true "panic braking" situations. Defensive driving and threshold braking (a developed & practiced skill) have been enough to keep me safe so far...
I have 4 Harley motorcycles. One has ABS and the other three do not. I don't give ABS a thought while deciding which bike to ride. While I don't mind having ABS on one of my bikes, neither do I feel unsafe while riding the bikes that don't have it...
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Ideally around 20k or a little less.
I don't really care much for farkles , noisy exhaust, or color really. As long as it doesn't catch too many eyes id like it.
I do not want ABS. I had a bmw s1000 at one point that had abs and it was alright for riding very lightly but asking it to do much of anything made the brake lever pulse like a jackhammer. I imagine Harleys abs setup cant possibly be better.
Realistically I just want a solid ride.
I don't really care much for farkles , noisy exhaust, or color really. As long as it doesn't catch too many eyes id like it.
I do not want ABS. I had a bmw s1000 at one point that had abs and it was alright for riding very lightly but asking it to do much of anything made the brake lever pulse like a jackhammer. I imagine Harleys abs setup cant possibly be better.
Realistically I just want a solid ride.
Cruiser
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 249
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From: Chelmsford, MA
I certainly wouldn't pass on the right bike if it had ABS. For $20K, you can easily get into a 2018 - 2019 Road Glide with 10k - 15k miles. Personally, I would look for a deal like this 2020 with only 3k miles where you could prob get it down to your $20k number. Prices are coming down and there's Winter deals to be had. Get one now before Spring.
Or get a 2023 standard Road Glide in Black with the 107, no ABS, no options for $22K + $1850 freight and surcharge = $23,850 + tax tags etc
Or get a 2023 standard Road Glide in Black with the 107, no ABS, no options for $22K + $1850 freight and surcharge = $23,850 + tax tags etc
Last edited by RAD1; Jan 10, 2023 at 10:53 AM.