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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 02:34 PM
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Since I don't trust everything I read in the owner's manual, (i.e. break-in procedures etc.), I want to ask if it is really necessary to run 91 octane on my new road king?
Except for the money I'll save, does it make that much difference if I just run regular unleaded?
Any feedback is appreciated.
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 02:37 PM
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There have been tons of threads on exactly this subject in the last couple of months.
My personal opinion is that with the cost being roughly 10cents more per gallon, the difference is minimal. I'm sticking with the 91 octane.
 
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 02:43 PM
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My first bike was a V-Star 650. I used 87 on that thing ONCE. That was all it took. Ran like crap. Never tried anything lower than 91 on either Harley I have owned.
 
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 02:49 PM
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Since I don't trust everything I read in the owner's manual, (i.e. break-in procedures etc.), I want to ask if it is really necessary to run 91 octane on my new road king?
Except for the money I'll save, does it make that much difference if I just run regular unleaded?
Any feedback is appreciated.
jchico
Run the cheap stuff if you want, its just a 50-50 chance you might not burn holes in your pistons or warp your valves due to detonation and high heat. You know it only costs 1.00 more to completely fill from empty a 5 gallon tank, with premium over regular, is it worth it to skimp?
 
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 02:56 PM
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Thanks all.
Your points are well taken. I'll stick with 91 octane.
 
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 03:09 PM
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If the TC88 has knock sensors, you could safely do it - I don't believe it does - therefore, I'd stick with what's recommended.
 
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 03:30 PM
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Price is minimal......91 octane is not that much more.

If a station does not have 91 and that is the only station within miles of you.......if they only have 87, then do it.

One can safely run 87 in most Twin Cams even though 91 is recommended. 87 is fine if you do not lug the engine and not let the engine ping. If you keep the RPM up, you'll probably be ok. Having said all this....91 is the wisest choice.

The EVO's run happy on 87 where the Twin Cams run happy on 91. Just different animals.....
 
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 04:10 PM
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This is about the most contravertial subject I've found on the forum. This is only my opinion, but as far as I can determine, the long stroke of the Harley engine benefits from 91-93 octane. My reasoning is, higher octane gas burns a little slower than regular, so at the relatively low rpms a normal Hog engine runs, the flame front continues most of the way thru the firing cycle giving a little longer power pulse(more torque, smoother). I've always run 93 in my pan, knuckle, shovel and Evo motors for that reason. No scientific data, just seat of the pants. So take it for what it's worth. Up north where I had the knuckle I could notice the difference when running Sonoco Blue, I think that was the best gas I've ever used.
 
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 04:47 PM
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My brother did'nt believe me when I told him to run super in his Dynaglide until he started having all kinds of problems. He rides everyday it's his only transportation. He started to break down every other day. The bike would run at an idle then when he took off no power. He then would stop let it coll off and try to go again. I asked him about the gas and he said he was still running 87 in it. Well with one tank of 93 it was like a new bike.
 
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 05:15 PM
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A few months ago I went in to pay for the gas while my 18 year old son waited for me, I needed to use the restroom while I was there, he decided he would help "dear ole dad" out an pump the gas. It was not empty but near it, I gave the lady behind the counter $ 12.00 as I knew it would take that much at least. When I got back he said he had pumped the gas, I asked if he had put in 93 octane and the look on his face told the tale, no he put in what I always used in the truck and he puts in his car, yep regular, 87 octane. To late then, I smiled an said it would be OK, he's a great kid and he did not know any different, we got back on an rode for another hour before we stopped and I refilled the tank with 93 octane as much as it would take and the rest of the day every time we stopped I did the same thing. Maybe I was lucky but I did not know the difference, it ran as always, but I would not let that happen again. Just between us, I kept waiting for something to go wrong till I got a few gallion of 93 back in it.
 
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