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Old Jan 12, 2025 | 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Jackie Paper
Hard to believe but it worked out. Couple weeks later, a young lady showed up trying to get us to release title at the DMV were it was reported stolen by police.

Granddaughter called me and after explaining to her she had our car.

She lived in another city. I called the police officer while the young lady was there. He told me to call that city's police department.

After getting off phone, I told her we would come get the car with the police. Never called them. Granddaughter and I drove to her house and I unlocked the car with an extra key and drove away.

We got a new released title, sold the car and I got my money back.

Police don't have the time or resources for this crap. What insurance is for. But other then liability on old cars, you win some and lose some.
Yes, may have gotten car back, but person that gave you fake money, may have sold the car to her after the fact, since you did sign the title over to crook, with crook getting real money in the end from the quick sale flip, and the lady that he flipped the car to with legit signed over title to her, getting screwed instead.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2025 | 04:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Dano523
Yes, may have gotten car back, but person that gave you fake money, may have sold the car to her after the fact, since you did sign the title over to crook, with crook getting real money in the end from the quick sale flip, and the lady that he flipped the car to with legit signed over title to her, getting screwed instead.
I didn't miss that part. We left her with the only resource she had was a trashed title to see if crook would give her money back.

Why I am so careful and why I posted 11 above how I sale.

And you just pointed out, make sure if your buying, that seller owns what he is selling. (What Badbagger is partly pointing out in Post 5)

In Virginia, a seller can't flip a title. And title she had was filled out by us as sellers and had the crooks ID on it he presented to us. She would not give us that or the car key.

At the time, when she was at my granddaughter's home, she got very strange after she realize I was talking to the police. At the time, I suspected she may have been involved with crook.

I don't buy used cars but have bought used bikes since I always considered them as a hobby.

Three were purchased at seller's homes. One on ebay I was considering from a seller near me turned out to be stolen from another state.

Got lucky on that because I researched it since ad said bank had title.

Owner gave the bank permission to talk to me. The bank told me they were still waiting on title from other state. That didn't make a lot of sense to me.

So I went to DMV. My DMV after I gave her the VIN , looked up and said hope you haven't gave anyone money. Then told me that it was reported stolen in another's State's DMV.

Just out of politeness, I called the bank finance manager and told him what DMV told me.

His comment was just a mumbles of crap crap. Thank you and good buy.

It's a crazy world out there. Be careful.
 

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Old Jan 12, 2025 | 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Jackie Paper
Hard to believe but it worked out. Couple weeks later, a young lady showed up trying to get us to release title at the DMV were it was reported stolen by police.

Granddaughter called me and after explaining to her she had our car.

She lived in another city. I called the police officer while the young lady was there. He told me to call that city's police department.

After getting off phone, I told her we would come get the car with the police. Never called them. Granddaughter and I drove to her house and I unlocked the car with an extra key and drove away.

We got a new released title, sold the car and I got my money back.

Police don't have the time or resources for this crap. What insurance is for. But other then liability on old cars, you win some and lose some.

Sold a Civic not long ago that I had replaced with a new FIT for a graduation present. Lady at the bank used three pins on money. And I could sense a displeasure of being caught up in it.
I'm glad everything worked out.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2025 | 06:01 AM
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I'm glad everything worked out.
Thank you. Did for me and taught me some more lessons of life.

Sadly, as Dano pointed out, it may not have for that last buyer if she wasn't in on it.

Years ago, they use to put Social security numbers on bank checks and tell you to etch it on valuables. A no no now.

Same as putting a VIN on the dash board yet they still.to that.

A crook can take it, steal a similar car. They put that VIN on a photo copy of a title.

Get a good title in another state or maybe just flip it. Then they sale it. As long as buyer doesn't check VIN on the dash, it works.

Owner of the original VIN doesn't even know it until they try to get there new tags or like in VA, a state inspection catches that vehicle is no longer registered in VA.

Happened to someone I know. State inspector said he could inspect any car but they had to remove the VA tags since car was not a VA car.

Took a State Police report to get the car back in VA DMV. And then I guess the other person found out he had a stolen car by that state's State police .
 

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Old Jan 12, 2025 | 07:02 AM
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My favorite scam I've seen is where they say they will send you a check for way over the amount listed and request you send the difference back to them. How trusting of them. Problem is the check looks very legitimate written on an actual account but it is fake. If you're dumb enough to send the difference BEFORE you cash and clear the check. You're screwed. Seen that one several times. Almost as bad at the millionaire Nigerian price one.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2025 | 11:01 AM
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I used to do a lot of stuff on CL but it has become too cumbersome because of the scammers. In my experience, for every one legitimate person on there, I have had to filter through at least 10-15 scammers... it is just not worth the effort anymore. Facebook Marketplace has plenty of scammers these days as well. I will list something for sale and get anywhere from 5-20 people asking "Is this available." I always respond right away and I never respond with 'Yes,' I simply say 'it's available.' If I hear back from them, which is rare, it is hours or days later which tells me is is either a bot or someone in a scammer group going through lists. Quite often, I will write in the body of the description of the item that I won't respond if they ask 'is it available... if it is listed, it's still available.' When they asked the question, I know that they haven't even read the ad.

Thieves are scumbags and this is the one, and only, place I would agree with the Sharia law they practice in the Middle East. If you catch these scammers, remove BOTH of their hands so they cannot type.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2025 | 06:13 PM
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CL was awesome for the first couple of years. Man, I sold cars, bikes, etc. without issue.

It is completely miserable for posting a sale, now, and even some of the postings you want to pursue for a possible purchase turn out to be disasters.

YMMV, but this is the same from many that I have discussed it with.
 
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