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Old Nov 5, 2025 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Esh3323
That sounds like me but mine is a stock 107…does the cam kit that gives you the lobey sound affect the 6th gear making it not a good fit for long rides? What would you suggest for my bike as far as whole kit?
Generally, you either gain low end torque or top end performance, but you seldom get both. The only thing thats going to give you 6th gear roll on at 60 MPH is displacement. Bigger cylinders. Sure, there are cams made for top end power but they are generally made for racing where you are plowing away at wide open throttle.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2025 | 02:45 PM
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Worth noting that you should pay a local shop for a proper dyno tune after you install the parts. The canned tunes you get will let the bike run, but certainly nowhere near where it should. So outside of the cost of the parts, factor that in as well.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2025 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by NorthWestern
Hey Steve, calm down, okay?
I never said ONE single thing about there being a difference. I am well aware of the manufacturers of the automotive lifters.

What I was speaking to him about was support from a vendor, and him purchasing a package that was all inclusive, hence my post that you clipped and quoted. I am the one that replied early in this thread with a kit, and then HE replied with the concern over lifter pricing. Cool?

I am sorry if I offended you somehow, I was not saying anything at all like you are describing.
I'm not upset, I just see way to many people that have bought into the hype that the Chevy lifters are no good and the others are superior. The truth is we bought a various bunch of lifters from the so called HD lifter suppliers. Took them all apart and measure things out to 0.0001" found little to no differences at all. As a matter of fact 98% of all the pieces were exactly the same. The biggest variation was the hole diameter where the pushrod fit the lifter.
 
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Old Nov 6, 2025 | 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve Cole
What makes you believe there is a difference between a HD bike lifter and the Chevy lifter? Truth is they are made from the exact same materials in the exact same plants. I know that this rumor has been spread around for a long time but it's not true. In the USA there is only two plants making the lifters to begin with and at one point they were the exact same company using the exact same equipment and manufacturing processes. Sure there are cheap knock offs that one should stay away from but a HD part number on the exact same part vs a Chevy part number is still the exact same part.
Hmmm.... an older S&S video on this topic.

 
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Old Nov 6, 2025 | 08:39 AM
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On lifters..

I had a 2012 cvo 110 that I became paranoid of the lifters while on a road trip.

Bike had around 15k miles and an Andrew's 57H cam I installed at about 10k with s&s lifters. Started tapping bad in Cortez CO.

I bought 4 lifters at Autozone for like $12 each and installed them in the hotel parking lot. I think they were Melling.

Didn't fix my tapping but I put another 20k miles on those lifters. Tapping turned out to be pushrod hitting top of pushrod tube.
 
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Old Nov 6, 2025 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by LQQK_OUT
Hmmm.... an older S&S video on this topic.

https://youtu.be/fMoRaHJRrhc?si=XMCZ7car-E8MI5Sn
And there my friend you have the Hype! They no longer even sell those lifters but the joke of the whole deal is they talk about the amount of oil to the top end. Those old lifters had the largest oil cup feed hole to the pushrods of them all. The hole was larger than the pushrod hole up to the heads. So think about that just for a minute and then get a set of the Quickie adjustable pushrods which they claim are a good deal to use. The hole in the lifter cup was ~0.110" as I recall and the hole in the stock pushrod was ~0.096". Now when you use the Quickie adjustable pushrods the hole in them in ONLY ~0.045" so having the bigger hole in the lifter cup is pure advertising hype or the Quickie Adjustable pushrods are junk, you pick as you cannot have both be true at the same time.
 

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Old Nov 6, 2025 | 08:09 PM
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Ive seen several cams for sale in classifieds, but Im weary as guys constantly replace parts and put the old stock ones back in the new package. Then they sell the lot of stock parts and the next guy sells them as seen. I cant tell you how many 'Harley performance parts' I see on FB that are stock parts in a new package.
I really want to order this as one whole shebang, as to avoid small errors like rollers not working well with so and so cam, or forgetting an o-ring or something. The again, when I see that (previous post) that GM sells lifters for 48 bucks a piece and the S&S version are 250 bucks, I gotta wonder where you start paying for a name and not a product. I think Im going to start watching the Fuelmoto website for black friday deals. Can you all give me a few others to look for? (Fueling, Jeggs, Summit, Etc?) (yeah I know, the other 2 are car sites but they are the guys I Know from prior auto cam jobs on high output engines)
That's a valid concern. I bought my cam from a member thats been around a while and PayPal offers some protection for the buyer.

Fuel Moto is my recommendation for a one stop shop and service after the sale. I wanted to use a TTS tuner and cam on my M8. They don't offer TTS products and my mind was made up. Jamie and Lucas at FM were very helpful with previous projects.
 
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Old Nov 7, 2025 | 03:20 AM
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Apples and oranges, Harley's are a low pressure, high volume oiling system, while automotive oil pumps idle at 30 psi, and go up from there as rpm increases.
 
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Old Nov 7, 2025 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Slingshot383
Apples and oranges, Harley's are a low pressure, high volume oiling system, while automotive oil pumps idle at 30 psi, and go up from there as rpm increases.
how much oill passes through the 16 pushrods in a typical V8 compared to the 4 in a v-twin? Probably similar volume. We can also change the by-pass valve in our oil pump can we not?

If automotive lifters were really all that bad one would thing they would fail quickly, but that does not seem to be the case.
 
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