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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 11:52 AM
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Don't think he had a clue
 
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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 01:09 PM
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ORIGINAL: wildey

How are they for grip compared to the Avons and Mets?? Wet and dry roads



To answer your question, "most" riders won't notice
any difference in traction unless a car or deer jumps
out in front of them. At that point they will find out
E3's have no traction and they will have that great
stand by story all inexprienced riders have to tell.
(" I had to lay it down ") ... "Yeah Right" or they
will be in the hospital or you'll be at their funeral!

Now if you ride hard and live in the mountains where
you drag everything in the corners and havegood riding
skills you will see a big difference in traction between
Dunlop,Avon,Metzeler,Michelin,Pirelli tires.

E3's loose most of their traction after they hit 3,500 to
4,000 miles. They will get real ugly in dry corners as
well asin the rain if you push them at all. Plus you
will have a very harsh ride because they are like bricks.

Here is a list of traction on the above tires starting with
the most to the least traction.

#1 Pirelli has the most hands down.

#2 Avon Almost as much as the Pirelli's but last
longer.

#3 Michelin (beware of sudden loss of traction at
their limit though")

#4 Metzeler These are your best compromise between
traction and wear.

#5 Stock HD Dunlop Their a good black rim protector
and thats about it just like 98% of OEM tires out there!

#6 E3's They are above average for the first 3,500 miles
after that if you ride hard and have the skills to push
them they are basicly junk at this point...

I could go on and on about tires and how they handle
because I road raced for a living and helped many tire
companies with street tire design as well as R&D riding.
I'll leave it at this for now,at least you now know the
difference in traction levels of the differenttire brands
which is what you were asking..

Good Luck and Ride Safe"
 
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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 03:02 PM
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#1 Pirelli has the most hands down.

#2 Avon Almost as much as the Pirelli's but last
longer.

#3 Michelin (beware of sudden loss of traction at
their limit though")

#4 Metzeler These are your best compromise between
traction and wear.

#5 Stock HD Dunlop Their a good black rim protector
and thats about it just like 98% of OEM tires out there!

#6 E3's They are above average for the first 3,500 miles
after that if you ride hard and have the skills to push
them they are basicly junk at this point...

I could go on and on about tires and how they handle
So go on some more. What about Continental Milestones?
 
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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 03:26 PM
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#1 Pirelli has the most hands down.

#2 Avon Almost as much as the Pirelli's but last
longer.

#3 Michelin (beware of sudden loss of traction at
their limit though")

#4 Metzeler These are your best compromise between
traction and wear.

#5 Stock HD Dunlop Their a good black rim protector
and thats about it just like 98% of OEM tires out there!

#6 E3's They are above average for the first 3,500 miles
after that if you ride hard and have the skills to push
them they are basicly junk at this point...

I could go on and on about tires and how they handle
So go on some more. What about Continental Milestones?



Sorry I have never worked for Continental tires or
done any testing of their tires. I can only speak of
things I know from testing myself in person.

 
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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 04:27 PM
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So which ones are you using on the Ultra, Chuck??
 
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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 05:59 PM
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ORIGINAL: gver1031

Anyone use elite3's on there touring bike I have dunlop d402's and was thinking about trying them out. Any suggestions don't want to goto Metzlers too soft a tire.
I had E3s on another touring bike and thought they were a great tire. I've heard too many people complain about Metz.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 06:11 PM
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I just had them put on my Ultra. (along with the IDS). Indy said they were great in the wet. their selling point for me is they have a higher load rating. We'll see how they hold up.

Chuck were those radials or bias ply that you were testing?
 
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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 08:06 PM
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Just when I thought maybe there was a longer life tire out there, someone has to come up with their opinion that says they are not what they are cracked up to be. I wouldn't mind paying extra bucks for a tire that will last a full riding season, approx. 10-12K for me. I know some say they get miles like that out of Dunlops 402, but I live and ride in the mountains, ride fast, and sometime am aggressive at lights. For me to get much more than 7500-8K out of tire and still feel safe is out of the question with the Dunlop D Series.

Guess I need to buy stock in Dunlop!!

Any input?????
 
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I ride aggresive..in rain..in mountains, and I like E3's.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 08:34 PM
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I've used Metzeler's in the past and always had excellent results.
However, I'll be going to E3's when my stock Dunlops wear out...
 
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