BUB???
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RE: BUB???
You've only got a little over $100 for install and dyno, which seems low by a bit, and you'll need to spend another $30 or so for the cable for the SERT, which doesn't come with one anymore.
[edit: sorry, I glossed over your "plus" installation, &c.]
[edit: sorry, I glossed over your "plus" installation, &c.]
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RE: BUB???
HD isn't going to warranty the Rinehart pipes; makes sense since HD didn't make them. Nothing else warranty-wise should be implicated by the SERTandhi-flow a/c.
When I bought my Rineharts I ordered the chrome end caps and immediately removed the blackcaps and resold them. I prefer the look of the chrome and it avoids the discoloration of the black caps.
When you schedule the appointment or make the arrangements for pre-delivery installation, insist, absolutely insist that you get a copy of what the HD tech loads in your ECM to change the a/f and timing of your ECM and keep the copy with the SERT on the bike, if not all the time,when you travel so they are available in an emergency. The copy will also provide proof of what was loaded by the HD tech if you experience an engine problem while the bike is under warranty.
When I bought my Rineharts I ordered the chrome end caps and immediately removed the blackcaps and resold them. I prefer the look of the chrome and it avoids the discoloration of the black caps.
When you schedule the appointment or make the arrangements for pre-delivery installation, insist, absolutely insist that you get a copy of what the HD tech loads in your ECM to change the a/f and timing of your ECM and keep the copy with the SERT on the bike, if not all the time,when you travel so they are available in an emergency. The copy will also provide proof of what was loaded by the HD tech if you experience an engine problem while the bike is under warranty.
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RE: BUB???
Do I want the "True Duals" or the "True Duals with Crossover"? What are advantages and disadvantages of each? Next question, If I wait until the Black tips start to discolor I can then add Chrome tips right? (How many miles will the black tips last?)
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RE: BUB???
Nathan: BUB is great about replacing the black tips under their 1-year warranty--though you take them off if/when they discolor and reinstall the replacements.
Many use the SE a/c kit, though many others use a K&N set-up using various parts. There are a couple of threads on the latter.
If you are going to be here much, try the search function at the top of the page for your questions and becomce familiar with it--just a suggestion.
Many use the SE a/c kit, though many others use a K&N set-up using various parts. There are a couple of threads on the latter.
If you are going to be here much, try the search function at the top of the page for your questions and becomce familiar with it--just a suggestion.
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RE: BUB???
i can't find one review on this forum about them new "bub 7" true duals, they've been out for around a month and if they were 1/2 decent you'd be hearing about them ??
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RE: BUB???
Well, I really like the idea of the crossover/balance tube and I don't really care that much about reviews on them. Soon as I get the money coming in again I think I'll have me a set of them Bub 7s with crossover.
Nathan: the dual pipes flow better than the stock sort-of-cross-between duals-with-crossover and two-into-one but whenever you've got separate systems on the same engine like that your low end can really suffer. The balance tube / crossover (true one, like on those Bubs, and like on most of the non-touring big twins) sacrifices a little bit on the top of the rev range but really helps the engine down low, right where I spend about 90% of my time.
The main thing I dislike about most of the "true duals" out there are that the pipes aren't equal-length front-to-back. I believe Bassani (spelling?) makes a set that comes a lot closer to ideal in that regard. The front and rear cylinders already want to behave differently enough as it is, no sense to me in making sure they always will by putting unequal-length pipes on them. Especially with no interconnection.
Nathan: the dual pipes flow better than the stock sort-of-cross-between duals-with-crossover and two-into-one but whenever you've got separate systems on the same engine like that your low end can really suffer. The balance tube / crossover (true one, like on those Bubs, and like on most of the non-touring big twins) sacrifices a little bit on the top of the rev range but really helps the engine down low, right where I spend about 90% of my time.
The main thing I dislike about most of the "true duals" out there are that the pipes aren't equal-length front-to-back. I believe Bassani (spelling?) makes a set that comes a lot closer to ideal in that regard. The front and rear cylinders already want to behave differently enough as it is, no sense to me in making sure they always will by putting unequal-length pipes on them. Especially with no interconnection.
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RE: BUB???
what about the 2 into 1 pipes, do they make good power & sound ?
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Well, I really like the idea of the crossover/balance tube and I don't really care that much about reviews on them. Soon as I get the money coming in again I think I'll have me a set of them Bub 7s with crossover.
Nathan: the dual pipes flow better than the stock sort-of-cross-between duals-with-crossover and two-into-one but whenever you've got separate systems on the same engine like that your low end can really suffer. The balance tube / crossover (true one, like on those Bubs, and like on most of the non-touring big twins) sacrifices a little bit on the top of the rev range but really helps the engine down low, right where I spend about 90% of my time.
The main thing I dislike about most of the "true duals" out there are that the pipes aren't equal-length front-to-back. I believe Bassani (spelling?) makes a set that comes a lot closer to ideal in that regard. The front and rear cylinders already want to behave differently enough as it is, no sense to me in making sure they always will by putting unequal-length pipes on them. Especially with no interconnection.
Well, I really like the idea of the crossover/balance tube and I don't really care that much about reviews on them. Soon as I get the money coming in again I think I'll have me a set of them Bub 7s with crossover.
Nathan: the dual pipes flow better than the stock sort-of-cross-between duals-with-crossover and two-into-one but whenever you've got separate systems on the same engine like that your low end can really suffer. The balance tube / crossover (true one, like on those Bubs, and like on most of the non-touring big twins) sacrifices a little bit on the top of the rev range but really helps the engine down low, right where I spend about 90% of my time.
The main thing I dislike about most of the "true duals" out there are that the pipes aren't equal-length front-to-back. I believe Bassani (spelling?) makes a set that comes a lot closer to ideal in that regard. The front and rear cylinders already want to behave differently enough as it is, no sense to me in making sure they always will by putting unequal-length pipes on them. Especially with no interconnection.