Factory shut down
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From: Fugitive from justice
RE: Factory shut down
HD is attempting to violate allmarket rules by refusing to reduce prices to clear excess inventory.....Instead, they shut down 5 plants at worker expence DURING THE HOLIDAYS......Merry Christmas, Harley workers....Welcome to twisted corp America.
HD's strategyis based on the IDEA that America will forever continue to pay TOO much for their bikes....Historically(10 years ago) Harleys were in short supply and that caused their prices to go thru the roof.....Now they have more Harleys than they can sell in a financial market running on fumes.
I'm watching close to see how their gamble turns out.....Odds are this time next year Harley will be owned by Arabs.
HD's strategyis based on the IDEA that America will forever continue to pay TOO much for their bikes....Historically(10 years ago) Harleys were in short supply and that caused their prices to go thru the roof.....Now they have more Harleys than they can sell in a financial market running on fumes.
I'm watching close to see how their gamble turns out.....Odds are this time next year Harley will be owned by Arabs.
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From: Southern California - Palm Springs Area
RE: Factory shut down
Well there goes my FUN MONIES for this quarter again....
Gotts to feel bad for those waiting on there production ordered bike or the guys that have ordered hard parts like color matched tins and such...
Gotts to feel bad for those waiting on there production ordered bike or the guys that have ordered hard parts like color matched tins and such...
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From: San Antonio, Republic of TEXAS
RE: Factory shut down
ORIGINAL: SoCal_Pappy
Well there goes my FUN MONIES for this quarter again....
Gotts to feel bad for those waiting on there production ordered bike or the guys that have ordered hard parts like color matched tins and such...
Well there goes my FUN MONIES for this quarter again....
Gotts to feel bad for those waiting on there production ordered bike or the guys that have ordered hard parts like color matched tins and such...
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From: Northeast Ohio
RE: Factory shut down
Yep, was at the dealer at, they had 7 of the 08 touring models on the floor. Supply and demand, it is a tightrope. If the supply is too short, then they start to lose sales to the competition, if demand drops, sales keep dropping, but historically, HD has been able to walk that tightrope as the demand remains high for their product.
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RE: Factory shut down
ORIGINAL: aviator
gotta feel bad for all those employees laid off for a week. be kinda hard on most of us if we "lost" a week's pay. they're being penalized for management's screw up.
ORIGINAL: SoCal_Pappy
Well there goes my FUN MONIES for this quarter again....
Gotts to feel bad for those waiting on there production ordered bike or the guys that have ordered hard parts like color matched tins and such...
Well there goes my FUN MONIES for this quarter again....
Gotts to feel bad for those waiting on there production ordered bike or the guys that have ordered hard parts like color matched tins and such...
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RE: Factory shut down
Owned by the arabs?? who says it already isn't... It is a publicly traded company - who knows who actually owns all the shares... ?? Don't like it - buy some HD stock. I have some - its real cheap right now.
Let me tell you my friend - there ain't too many saudis and all their money -( or most of it) is in dollars - and they don't keep it in cash - hell they probably own your freaking mortgage - them or the chinese. Believe me we sold out to all these guys - years and years ago. And its a good thing cause they could really screw us over otherwise. They can't screw us - because they would just be screwing themselves. Monetary integration - we are one big family. Like it or not.
Let me tell you my friend - there ain't too many saudis and all their money -( or most of it) is in dollars - and they don't keep it in cash - hell they probably own your freaking mortgage - them or the chinese. Believe me we sold out to all these guys - years and years ago. And its a good thing cause they could really screw us over otherwise. They can't screw us - because they would just be screwing themselves. Monetary integration - we are one big family. Like it or not.
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From: Fugitive from justice
RE: Factory shut down
"How is it HD management's fault"
I'm glad you ask easy questions.
HD, unlike any other MOCO, refuses to help their dealers when the markets slumps.....Our domestic auto makers always offer incentives to their dealers when the market tanks....No such thing EVER with HD.
Don't believe me? Just ask the general sales manager or owner of any HD store.....They will tell you they are on their own-out in the cold.
I'm glad you ask easy questions.
HD, unlike any other MOCO, refuses to help their dealers when the markets slumps.....Our domestic auto makers always offer incentives to their dealers when the market tanks....No such thing EVER with HD.
Don't believe me? Just ask the general sales manager or owner of any HD store.....They will tell you they are on their own-out in the cold.
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RE: Factory shut down
ORIGINAL: YodaddyKeith
I'm watching close to see how their gamble turns out.....Odds are this time next year Harley will be owned by Arabs.
I'm watching close to see how their gamble turns out.....Odds are this time next year Harley will be owned by Arabs.
So they scale back. Not a problem the way I see it. Its a gamble from the MOCO stand point to keep prices up. After all those bikes on the floor still will sell sooner or later...
And if H-D is Arab owned this time next year..... all those "well" paid and benifet compensated "Union" United States workers will be out of a job.
The Arabs will save MOCO even more money by moving production to The Black Hole of Calcutta.
You will have your Ultra being made by 8yr oldchildern in sweatshopsbeing feed one serving of red beans an rice a day......
Can you say OUT SOURCING!
Do you think the gamble will work?