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Well I just read thelink from a prior "loud pipe" thread that was posted. I guess I will have to say I am the first one that went to louder pipes for the single and soul purpose of safety. How? you ask? I live in a very quiet mountain community with a very small one single lane road main street in the mountains. Last summer, 4 times, FOUR TIMES, coming back from the service station after fueling up, there is a fairly sharp turn going into main street. The side of the street is a steep bank so you cant see ahead around the turn. Just on the other side of the turn is a crosswalk. 4 times I have nearly creamed people trying to cross the street in the crosswalk. I go 20 mph, 10 under the speed limit, and when I come around the corner I surprise people because they never heard me coming. A stock 08 street glide sounds like a sewing machine. The 08 has the new caltlyic converter mufflers. Since I have changed mufflers, every time I come around that corner pedestrians are standing on the side of street waiting for me to go by. Now tell me that loud pipes dont do anything at all for safety.
My pipes are loud... I don't have 'no stinking baffles'... and, that is just fine for me... For many years I worked nights, and my neighbors sure as **** didn't seem to mind waking my @ss up at 7am on a Saturday morning, mowing their damn lawn... I say f'em... I am generally not loud in the neighborhood, but not because of my neighbors, but because of their kids... they need their sleep for school... everyone else can kiss my fat @ss...
I have a little rant! In a lot of magazines I’ve been reading especially anything put out my Harley there is a big bitch about loud pipes. Here’s my take on this, first I keep reading about the H.D. rider firing his bike up at 0600 and waking the neighbors. This assumes we all get up at 0600 and we live next to lazy neighbors that don’t work. Tell your neighbors to get a job! Second all the young folks have flow master or some other type of after market mufflers on their cars and trucks, but I don’t hear much about them. Lastly you have all these spike headed, blue, red, orange, green headed idiots look like their mom slept with a peacock, driving down the road bumping their base with so called music that spills profanity all over the neighborhood and no one does anything about them either. So brother’s rap out them pipes, can I get an Amen? Disclaimer This does not necessarily express the views of my neighbors [align=left] [/align]
So it's ok for us to make noise and **** everyone off too since the previous mentioned groups do too? I used to feel that HD was making to much to do about loud pipes. But I've really began to notice that too many people with loud pipes feel the need to rev their engines and make lots of noise especially in cities and residential areas. With that said, if we don't police ourselves, then we've got no one else to blame when new laws regarding pipes on motorcycles come out. We need to be good neighbors.
So it's ok for us to make noise and **** everyone off too since the previous mentioned groups do too? I used to feel that HD was making to much to do about loud pipes. But I've really began to notice that too many people with loud pipes feel the need to rev their engines and make lots of noise especially in cities and residential areas. With that said, if we don't police ourselves, then we've got no one else to blame when new laws regarding pipes on motorcycles come out. We need to be good neighbors.
Nope not at all what I’m saying, I’m just showing that there are many other things that make noise. Part of living in the city is lawn mowers, bikes, cars, trucks, stereo’s, airplanes and worst of all trains, and a whole lot of other noise makers. The truth is it’s not really the community that is complaining. It’s the same people that complain about Hunting, fishing, pollution (gases, liquids, solids and noise). If you live in the city there’s noise if you live close to an interstate, rail-road or airport there’s a lot of noise. When I was a police officer I made noise complaint calls from people that live next to the airport complaining about planes, how dumb is that? If it was the people in general complaining it would not be federal regulations trying to stop it. The people would go to the city and the city would enact a city ordinance and then every loud exhaust would get ticketed and the car, truck, bike what ever would get impounded. When I was a police officer for 11 years I never wrote one ticket for motorcycles making noise. If the city had been getting complaints we would have been instructed to write tickets, we never were. When it happens at the federal level its special interest groups like PETA, Green Piece or the inventor of the internet good old Al. So by all means be a good neighbor but don’t get fooled into thinking that’s whose making the complaints. [align=left] [/align]
The hand writing is on the wall. Loud pipes are an invasion on other peoples rights. We are going to see new laws all across the counrty restrictingthem. I can't say I like it but that's the way it is. I won't help to bury your head in the sand and deny that loud pipes don't affect others.
I have pretty loud pipes on my Deuce (Big Radius Vance and Hines) but on my cruiser I have B/E's and they are pretty quite. I feel SAFER in the city with louder pipes so people can SEE/HEAR me. That said, I don't rev my Deuce up too much or try to be too loud with those pipes and I am rare to fire it up too early or come home too late, so my neighbors don't seem to mind.
My neighbor feeds deer and we have TONS of them in our yard, eating our plants and crapping all over the place. Any given night we have 6-10 deer laying in our backyard from 8pm to 3am. This is in the city. I live with that and say nothing.........
The hand writing is on the wall. Loud pipes are an invasion on other peoples rights. We are going to see new laws all across the counrty restrictingthem. I can't say I like it but that's the way it is. I won't help to bury your head in the sand and deny that loud pipes don't affect others.
There are already laws in just about every city in our country on loud pipes they have been there for many years, new laws won't change anything. You're right about them trying to write new laws though, they will take away our fire arms, they will take away our right to hunt and fish, they will take bikes away completely if we let them. So vote for the right reps and don't let them do it. Our politicains only have as much power as we give them. As for invading peoples rights as I already said I know for a fact that the community was not calling and complaining about loud pipes, It just was not happening. Maybe some other police officers can offer what their cities are doing.
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