2 Into 1 & Lugging
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The older engines were designed for the lower rpm - this one ain't. You may not be hearing problems, but ah've got a 96, an' I DO hear a major difference in the engine under 1500 rpm at load - so ah'm not shore iffen mebbe the old pan took yer eardrums out.
Bottom line - it's yer bike, do as ya wish. Ah'm jest tryin' ta let ya know that yer not doin' ANY part of yer drive train any favors.
Bottom line - it's yer bike, do as ya wish. Ah'm jest tryin' ta let ya know that yer not doin' ANY part of yer drive train any favors.
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RE: 2 Into 1 & Lugging
I have 2 into 1 (D&D Fat Cats) and I agree with TexasRedneck.
If you're running 50 mph in 6th gear and you are pulling at all, you are lugging your engine. I suppose if you're coasting downhill you are OK.
6th gear is not happy until you get above 65mph.
If you're running 50 mph in 6th gear and you are pulling at all, you are lugging your engine. I suppose if you're coasting downhill you are OK.
6th gear is not happy until you get above 65mph.
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I have more power with my 95" then your 96" motor ...........and I don't let my motor get below 2000 rpms at all, 2500 and above is even better.
The reason you are not feeling the lugging is because of the IDS system. Believe it or not, you're lugging your motor and you're doing damage if you continue to do it.
Steve
The reason you are not feeling the lugging is because of the IDS system. Believe it or not, you're lugging your motor and you're doing damage if you continue to do it.
Steve
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ORIGINAL: TN Houndog
Mariner, use your tach!!!! I have no doubt your engine is "happier" with your new combination but you'll have fewer problems and it'll most likely last longer if you keep it above 2,000 RPM under load. My riding bud has a Streetglide with a 255 SE cam, SE heavy breather, and a V&H propipe. It WILL definately pull at lower RPMs than I suggested without shuddering, but it is putting MUCH greater torsional load on the crank. You may get away with putting the extra load on the crank for the life of the bike, but why take the chance?
Mariner, use your tach!!!! I have no doubt your engine is "happier" with your new combination but you'll have fewer problems and it'll most likely last longer if you keep it above 2,000 RPM under load. My riding bud has a Streetglide with a 255 SE cam, SE heavy breather, and a V&H propipe. It WILL definately pull at lower RPMs than I suggested without shuddering, but it is putting MUCH greater torsional load on the crank. You may get away with putting the extra load on the crank for the life of the bike, but why take the chance?
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ORIGINAL: maineultraclassic
I have more power with my 95" then your 96" motor ...........and I don't let my motor get below 2000 rpms at all, 2500 and above is even better.
The reason you are not feeling the lugging is because of the IDS system. Believe it or not, you're lugging your motor and you're doing damage if you continue to do it.
Steve
I'm with Steve on this as my 95 has more and I DO NOT lug it!! Be careful with your motor!
I have more power with my 95" then your 96" motor ...........and I don't let my motor get below 2000 rpms at all, 2500 and above is even better.
The reason you are not feeling the lugging is because of the IDS system. Believe it or not, you're lugging your motor and you're doing damage if you continue to do it.
Steve
I'm with Steve on this as my 95 has more and I DO NOT lug it!! Be careful with your motor!
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RE: 2 Into 1 & Lugging
ORIGINAL: Beemervet
I think I might have 2/1 pipes.
ORIGINAL: mariner227
Reread the post!!! I asked for opinions from people who actually have 2 into 1 exhausts on their touring bikes.
Reread the post!!! I asked for opinions from people who actually have 2 into 1 exhausts on their touring bikes.
