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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by swestbrook60
Its odd that while 18% is considered an ok profit by most here, when Exxon makes 9% profit they are gouging the consumer. Goes to show how easy it is to sway most peoples opinions.

I don't have a problem with either percentage, its a business and it's goal is to make money. The markey decides how much profit they can make.
Exon makes 9% on something we have to have, even grocery mark up is only about 3%. HD makes 18% on something we don't have to have, just like to have. There is a big difference.

The cost of the service plan is interesting. In 18 months I've had 3 10K services, 4 5K, 5 tires, and 10 days worth of free rentals and it I have another 18 months to go! I think they are losing money on me!!!
 
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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 05:33 PM
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Exxon 9% margin is Net Profit, not Gross Profit. Exxon's GP I am sure is much higher. Just as I'm sure HD's GP is high, although the NP isn't right now, although on the way to be.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 06:09 PM
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Profit is not a dirty word.

We all have the same opportunity to pony up the $12,000,000 or so that it takes to build, and open, a new Harley store.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 06:30 PM
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Wait till it gets cold, say about January. They are usually a little more interested in working with you, especially a commission salesman and if you have cash, thats what I have found. If you can get a couple dealers working against each other on trade in value, that helps too. I don't care what anyone says I don't think I need to line the pockets of some dude just because he put up the money for a motorcycle dealership. Our local dealer has homes and toys running out his you know what, and that's because folks just lay their money down. I also hear the repossessions of financed harley's is running real high. Is there a correlation?
 

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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 06:41 PM
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You calculated the profit wrong.

Not sure from your post if the 4143 is before or after the 2k gift card. so computing both ways

The profit is calculated as a percentage of their price, not yours. So - if the 4,143 profit is not including the gift card then -

22,400 - 4,143 = 18,257. the profit is calculated as a % of their price so 4,143/18,257 = 22.69% profit.

if you factor in the 2k gift card then 22,400 - 2,000 = 20,400 - 4,143 = 16,257. 4143/16257 = 25.48% profit.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 06:50 PM
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I've been in retail for 30 years, selling electronics, cameras, computers. Gross profit margin is Selling Price minus Cost Price, divided by SELLING PRICE. Sorry Weavr99FLHT. 18.5% GP is correct (not including the gift card).
 
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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 07:00 PM
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That aint much , but like someone said the accessories are the money makers ..

As long as they're making a profit you have a dealer and we have a MoCo ..

If the owner told you what it costs when they unlock the front door for the day , you'd probly have a coronary ..
 
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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 07:03 PM
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I was calculating Markup % If I pay $100 for something and sell it for $150 then my markup % by definition is 50% - my Gross Margin is 33% by definition. my apologies.
 

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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by meveratt
I've been in retail for 30 years, selling electronics, cameras, computers. Gross profit margin is Selling Price minus Cost Price, divided by SELLING PRICE. Sorry Weavr99FLHT. 18.5% GP is correct (not including the gift card).
Same here but I usually say, GP = Profit / Sale
4143/22400 = 18.49%
 
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